What Do You Associate With Certain Countries?!

[agent_orange]

Originally posted by Waz@Nov 12 2003, 07:20 PM
Really? Explain why you've got more banned substances than any other country, you can't talk negatively about certain government matters or you get 'investigated', every large company will sue you for so much as thinking about something they don't like the idea of, and just about everything that is legal in a similar country such as England is illegal there?

Oh, wait, I know the answer! It's that you're an ignorant fucking tosspot who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about!

In the USA have a few things that a lot of countries do not have.
for example:
The United States constitution grants citizens freedom of speech and freedom of press.
Also, our constitution grants us the right to bear arms, which some countries, like japan do not.

Of course, you have one way of seeing things, but I can't agree with you.

 

[Jet Set Willy]

Originally posted by agent_orange@Nov 12 2003, 08:27 PM
The United States constitution grants citizens freedom of speech and freedom of press.

All you've said there is "Citizens of the USA have more freedom because the citizens of the USA have more freedom.".

Also, our constitution grants us the right to bear arms, which some countries, like japan do not.

Good point, that one had passed by me. Naturally you wouldn't understand that other countries can do a multitude of things which you can't.

Almost all drugs are illegal there - whereas where I am I can legally take salvia, mushrooms, etc.

I can open my mouth without being sued. Freedom of speech, you say?

I think that mostly your opinions are based on your ignorance. I value my actual freedom over the potential to easily obtain a gun and shoot up a school.

 

[Codeine]

Americans aren't even allowed to vist Cuba, or own any of there products; freedom you say?

 

[Badger]

Originally posted by agent_orange@Nov 12 2003, 09:27 PM
Also, our constitution grants us the right to bear arms, which some countries, like japan do not.

The poor grizzlys!

 

[Zach]

The right to bear arms doesn't mean shit to us anymore

The US has come to the point where it excels at bombing civilian structures, the exact same structures they would need to be hitting if there was ever an uprise against the government.

 

[ScotchGuy]

Originally posted by Waz@Nov 12 2003, 12:43 PM
Almost all drugs are illegal there - whereas where I am I can legally take salvia, mushrooms, etc.

I can open my mouth without being sued. Freedom of speech, you say?

I think that agent_orange's idea that America is a free country comes from the fact that in America this very idea is drilled into childrens heads, we're basically taught in school at an early age that the U.S. does nothing but help people, and other countries hate us because we're superior.

America may have been founded on the idea of freedom, but now America is no more free than most countries that aren't considered third world.

Waz: Salvia is still legal here, but I agree the United States drug policy is the worst, their mentality:

"Forget criminals, harmful sex offenders, and serial killers, lets go bust some teenagers smoking pot in the forest."

I don't think the fact that everyone in America sues for horrible reasons is the governments fault, it's the publics fault. Americans as a whole are bumbling ignorant slobs, and I hate them. They're so fucking stupid, they need everything to have a warning or tell them something, they have no common sense at all.

Just today my friend went to eat some Pillsbury pre-made cookie dough. I was pissed off because it was my cookie dough and I wanted it, so I said, "You better not eat that, you could get salmonella and die." (Even though it was incredibly unlikely)

His reply: "Whatever, they wouldn't put eggs in this, and if it could hurt you they would have a warning."

He ate it, as I checked the ingredients. Low and behold, EGGS in bold print I shoved it in his face and told him he would die now. I then called him ignorant and moronic, and said, "GOD! DO YOU WANT A FUCKING WARNING ON EVERYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HURT YOU???!!"

Then I mocked him: "Hmm, I don't see a warning telling me not to shoot myself in the face on this gun, I suppose it couldn't hurt me! No warning on this cliff, I will jump now!"

Pornography: What are you on about?

 

[Jet Set Willy]

Ah, yeah, you're right about salvia. My mistake.

My opinion is that the more popular and less potent a drug is, the less chance there is of it being legal. This is because there would be extremely high demand if it were to be legal, and the government won't like to see that happen until they can find a way to tax it.

 

[DanielW]

Originally posted by Waz@Nov 12 2003, 09:43 PM
I think that mostly your opinions are based on your ignorance. I value my actual freedom over the potential to easily obtain a gun and shoot up a school.

I'll agree with you that the idea of "freedom" is drilled into people's heads over here, all the BS songs like "god bless america, land of the free..." and other shit.

However using arguments like "easily obtain a gun to shoot up a school" don't hold much merit. Let's say we outlaw guns in the USA, who is going to obey these laws? that's right, law abiding citizens. You won't see criminals go "damn, I wish i could buy that beretta, but shucks, now it's against the law to own a gun".
Look at Washington D.C., guns are illegal there, yet the murder rate with a firearm is one of the highest in the country. How is that possible? Also after London made guns illegal, the murder and assault rate went up by a lot.
One last thing. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Wheter it's with a knife, a car, a broken bottle or their fists. If somebody wants to kill another person they will find a way to do it. Let's outlaw all of these "dangerous weapons".
Besides, guns will never be outlawed in the US, because they are used for hunting.

 

[Badger]

Guns are legal here Daniel, just the US takes the piss as to what is on the market and who can own them.

In the UK to own a shotgun you need a licence, and, to own any form of riflle you need firearms certificates.

I don't think anybody should be free to own a firearm. Only responsible and appropriately certified people should ever be allowed near one, rather than just any old Tom, Dick or Harry with minimal common sense. Waz is just highlighting the point that being free to bear firearms probably isn't a good thing.

 

[DanielW]

I will agree that it is harder to get a driver's license in the US than it is to get a gun permit. And that really is saying a lot because you can send a monkey in for a driver's license and I'm willing to bet serious money that it will come out with one.

I do agree that gun control should be a lot more punishing than it is now.
Also, the reason why drugs are outlawed is because the people in the US govt. are stubborn bastards. They're not gonna admit to it and say "yeah we just wasted trillions of dollars on this drug war, but we finally give up now, so you can smoke some weed if you want now". They will fight this forever. Instead of losing money on this bullshit "drug war", they should just tax it and make money.

About freedom of speech. It's a double edged sword. People can sue you for slander if you say something about them. That limits your freedom of speech, but it also gives you rights if someone tries to defame you. Personally I think that all lawsuits related to freedom of speech should be thrown out. if I was a celebrity and someone bublished some bad shit about me, I would take out a full page add in the most popular paper in the US and write "[editor's name who wrote shit about you] likes to suck donkey cock" and put up a doctored photo right below. fuck all these stupid lawsuits. i had some more to add but fogot.

oh yeah, just like that stupid lawsuit that's in right now. some punkass kids shot up some cars after playing gta.
victims families sue, rockstar, sony, and walmart. WTF!?!?!?! first of all I'm not even going to go into rocktstar's freedom of expression rights, but what the fuck does walmart have to do anything with that. well unless they willingly sold the game to a minor, but it's still a BS lawsuit, and i know it will get thrown out, because if it doesn't it will spawn hundreds more just like it.

 

[ScotchGuy]

Originally posted by DanielW@Nov 12 2003, 05:37 PM
Instead of losing money on this bullshit "drug war", they should just tax it and make money.

oh yeah, just like that stupid lawsuit that's in right now. some punkass kids shot up some cars after playing gta.
victims families sue, rockstar, sony, and walmart. WTF!?!?!?! first of all I'm not even going to go into rocktstar's freedom of expression rights, but what the fuck does walmart have to do anything with that. well unless they willingly sold the game to a minor, but it's still a BS lawsuit, and i know it will get thrown out, because if it doesn't it will spawn hundreds more just like it.

Yes, that's a much better idea then fighting a war that is impossible to win.


I guess they expect Wal-Mart to ask each and every person who buys it "Hey, are you going to shoot at cars after playing this?"

 

[W-General]

*America: Southern farm-owning rednecks with big twinbarrel shotguns (Thanks to a game called "Redneck Rampage.") Cowboys, hotdogs, statue of liberty, democracy (wow).
*Japan: Great food, anime, hotsprings, pinnacle of civilization
China: damn Commies, censorship, corruption, fetus eating, everything evil.
*Australia: Aussie accent, koala and kangaroos. I've been to Oz too.
France: Effiel Tower.
Germany: Factories
Netherlands: Windmills
Mexico: Illegal immigrants
*Korea: Kimchi, Ginseng
England: The Royal Family, scandalous gossip newspapers.
Canada: Funky policemen that ride horses (whatever they're called)
Russia: Kremlin, cavier.
Spain: Bullfighters
Scandanavian countries: Free college, social benefits, lots of ice and snow.
Egypt: Pyramids, Sphinx
Switzerland: Cheese, clocks, watches
Cuba: Illegal immigrants. Cigars.
Italy: Uh...Pizza? Power of Pisa.
Greece: Old stuff, you know all the ruins of the Greek city-states.
India: Curry

* denote countries I've been to

 

[Codeine]

Originally posted by W-General@Nov 13 2003, 07:45 AM
China: damn Commies, censorship, corruption,fetus eating, everything evil.

Wha?

 

[Badger]

he has an anime avatar.... work it out..

 

[4th Disciple]

Originally posted by Badger@Nov 14 2003, 03:19 AM
he has an anime avatar.... work it out..

Not anime, video game.

 

[onewecallgod]

Originally posted by W-General@Nov 13 2003, 07:45 AM
*America: Southern farm-owning rednecks with big twinbarrel shotguns (Thanks to a game called "Redneck Rampage.") Cowboys, hotdogs, statue of liberty, democracy (wow).
*Japan: Great food, anime, hotsprings, pinnacle of civilization
China: damn Commies, censorship, corruption, fetus eating, everything evil.
*Australia: Aussie accent, koala and kangaroos. I've been to Oz too.
France: Effiel Tower.
Germany: Factories
Netherlands: Windmills
Mexico: Illegal immigrants
*Korea: Kimchi, Ginseng
England: The Royal Family, scandalous gossip newspapers.
Canada: Funky policemen that ride horses (whatever they're called)
Russia: Kremlin, cavier.
Spain: Bullfighters
Scandanavian countries: Free college, social benefits, lots of ice and snow.
Egypt: Pyramids, Sphinx
Switzerland: Cheese, clocks, watches
Cuba: Illegal immigrants. Cigars.
Italy: Uh...Pizza? Power of Pisa.
Greece: Old stuff, you know all the ruins of the Greek city-states.
India: Curry

* denote countries I've been to

you want me to kung-fu your ass, cracker? h34r:

 

[agent_orange]

Originally posted by Pornography@Nov 12 2003, 10:17 PM
Americans aren't even allowed to vist Cuba, or own any of there products; freedom you say?

where did you hear that?

 

[El Fugitivo]

Uh...it's a fairly well-known fact, though Pornography is not quite correct. You can own Cuban goods, but you cannot go there unless you're a student, a journalist, have Cuban relatives, or need to go there for U.S. Government work. When you come back, you can only bring $100 worth of consumable goods (cigars, rum, etc.) back into the U.S., and only for personal use, not resale.

 

[Codeine]

Oh, well, fuck my Civics teacher than :angry:

 

[ScotchGuy]

Spiff: I didn't even know that. Hmm, would you like to make a potentially dangerous trip to a certain country located south of Florida? Pick me up on the way there, you still have your pinto right?