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DanielW
November 4th, 2003, 06:21
O.K. Before the movie starts, what are your predictions about what the matrix really is. Is Zion another matrix within a matrix? i mean how could neo stop the sentinels, how could agent smith get out of the matrix, and how could the oracle know about neo's dreams? any predictions before the thing hits the theaters?

ScotchGuy
November 4th, 2003, 06:29
I predict it will suck less ass than Reloaded, but more than the original.

Codeine
November 4th, 2003, 06:31
People have been saying that Zion is another Matrix within a Matrix for a while. So if thats the big secret, Im going to be pissed.

I can't even remember the first movie (saw half of it 3 years ago, and I remember hating it) so, I don't have that much of an idea of what's going to happen.

DanielW
November 4th, 2003, 06:36
let's take bets on who's gonna die :)

Zach
November 4th, 2003, 07:33
Lets take a look at the first two films.

At least 1 disgusting scene featuring Neo > Check
Neo Kills Some People > Check
Neo gets some pussy > Check


Can anyone guess what the third movie will be about ? :rolleyes:

Jet Set Willy
November 4th, 2003, 07:43
It's all cack.

ScotchGuy
November 4th, 2003, 08:17
Cack on your back. Or so I've heard :(

KidneyKai
November 4th, 2003, 14:16
DBZ type battles + last boss type geezer = spikey machine god (or so people say).
I put 2 and 2 together and say that the last boss is some type of Goku lookalike (needless to say, i got 2 + 2 = 6) :blink:

Splize
November 4th, 2003, 21:06
I think the movies gonna suck because any addition to Reloaded is gonna be wack as well. Alought I didn't mind the first one..I thought it was pretty good but the Matrix in general was ruined when the sequals came out.

El Fugitivo
November 4th, 2003, 21:24
Yeah, The Matrix was on tv last night, and I watched it for about five minutes before I realized how far Reloaded had gone from the original. I liked The Matrix because it was smart, it was cool, and it looked good without being too artificial. Why do they think then that I would like to look at Zion and Monica Belluci for two hours? (okay, so I could look at Belluci forever, but still...Reloaded is a far cry from the original.) Seriously, Zion is just the same old dirty vision of the future that Ridley Scott re-invented with Alien and we've seen in every sci-fi flick since.

ScotchGuy
November 4th, 2003, 21:35
Originally posted by El Fugitivo@Nov 4 2003, 12:24 PM
Yeah, The Matrix was on tv last night, and I watched it for about five minutes before I realized how far Reloaded had gone from the original. I liked The Matrix because it was smart, it was cool, and it looked good without being too artificial. Why do they think then that I would like to look at Zion and Monica Belluci for two hours? (okay, so I could look at Belluci forever, but still...Reloaded is a far cry from the original.) Seriously, Zion is just the same old dirty vision of the future that Ridley Scott re-invented with Alien and we've seen in every sci-fi flick since.
Exactly.

MONKEY_NUTS
November 4th, 2003, 22:31
The ending is proberlly that they are all machines and that it was created to be entertainment for the human race. Oh and reloaded sucked so badly.

Jet Set Willy
November 4th, 2003, 22:37
The script probably ends such:

"okay and then neo woke up and it was all a dream and the he went downstairs and had brekfast.

by jon johnes aged 5 and a half"

Codeine
November 4th, 2003, 22:46
Im seeing it Friday :ph34r:

And those cross-dressing bastards better give it a proper death.

Badger
November 5th, 2003, 03:44
I reckon Agent Smith is actually the good guy.

Its sort of going to be like a second world war story told from the Nazi perspective rather than the Allies perspective. Hence why neo etc, seem like the good guys, when there actually the bad guys. It will have some stupid plot twist like that.

I'm kinda looking forward to the last one, simply because I just want to find out how the series ends, but basically, I agree with what spiff said.

Lefteris_D
November 5th, 2003, 06:05
Originally posted by Pornography@Nov 5 2003, 12:46 AM
Im seeing it Friday :ph34r:
I'm probably today.

Codeine
November 5th, 2003, 06:07
NO SPOILING!!11

Could this board have spoiler tags?

DanielW
November 5th, 2003, 06:39
I liked the first one because it was really good concept. In the second one you sort of knew what was going on already, plus like others said, Zion was such a cliche. And that rave <_<
I don&#39;t know how the third one&#39;s gonna be but i want some answers damn it. :ph34r:

Lefteris_D
November 5th, 2003, 11:11
Originally posted by Pornography@Nov 5 2003, 08:07 AM
NO SPOILING&#33;&#33;11

Could this board have spoiler tags?
I can work on it.

Jet Set Willy
November 5th, 2003, 11:49
I&#39;ll probably ask one of you lot to tell me the end, as I&#39;m unlikely to bother watching it.

Tidus_Flame
November 5th, 2003, 18:40
yes the third will probably make a complete contridiction of the first and neo might be having a dream within a dream but you have to relise what about us? are we really sitting here typing or are we there powering their machines? it really makes you think doesnt it

but im also a sci fi freak so dont goall crazy thinkin about it like me :lol:

DanielW
November 6th, 2003, 00:09
Originally posted by Tidus_Flame@Nov 5 2003, 06:40 PM
but im also a freak :lol:
i agree

Codeine
November 6th, 2003, 00:10
You evil bastards, shut your filthy mouths.

DanielW
November 6th, 2003, 01:07
my friend saw it and said that it was pretty much all action and no thinking involved. He also said that there was no big plot twists or surprises.

Jet Set Willy
November 6th, 2003, 06:30
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl...840&cid=7404089 (http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=84840&cid=7404089)

Go there for the ending spoiler.

DanielW
November 6th, 2003, 06:35
i&#39;m so fucking tempted :angry:
why&#39;d you put up the link.
i don&#39;t have the self control, not to click the link :(

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 6th, 2003, 07:12
It may be so like the tarditional movies, they named the third one Matrix Revolutions and I think the name says it&#33;

There is going to be a revolution brought by the one (Neo)...and the era of the machines is going to end either abruptly or something new&#33;

Jet Set Willy
November 6th, 2003, 07:14
Originally posted by M.H.A.Q.S.@Nov 6 2003, 06:12 AM
It may be so like the tarditional movies, they named the third one Matrix Revolutions and I think the name says it&#33;
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU?

Codeine
November 6th, 2003, 07:16
S/hes from Pakistan, s/he has bad english.

ScotchGuy
November 6th, 2003, 07:19
M.H.A.Q.S = Mortimer Halted Assault Quenches Snurfel

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 6th, 2003, 07:31
What is it, do you guys hate my english, Ok I will try learn it from someone ok&#33;

People do look for information that&#39;s given to them, Pakistan; huh, what the hell do you know

ScotchGuy
November 6th, 2003, 07:33
I think that&#39;s the most nonsensical thing you&#39;ve said so far. It&#39;s just mildly hard to follow at times.

I stand by my statement:

M.H.A.Q.S = Mortimer Halted Assault Quenches Snurfel

Codeine
November 6th, 2003, 07:42
I disagree ScotchGuy,

The most inane sentence s/hes made so far, HAS to be:



It may be so like the tarditional movies, they named the third one Matrix Revolutions and I think the name says it&#33;

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 6th, 2003, 09:10
Are you guys enjoying my english&#33;

that&#39;s all that matters me&#33;

Jet Set Willy
November 6th, 2003, 09:11
What is your native language? Maybe we should try to speak it.

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 6th, 2003, 09:16
I think You cannot&#33;

It&#39;s Urdu and Punjabi&#33;

I bet if I start speaking it, you guys will leave the forums

Jet Set Willy
November 6th, 2003, 09:22
Soot na pataan - julaahe naal thenga thengi

There, you can laugh at me now. I think I said something about cotton.

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 6th, 2003, 09:28
Haha ok, chalo koi tay hai meray naal bolan ala&#33;

The above line means
"Thank God, there&#39;s someone to talk with me in (Urdu)"

ummm, can you tell me what is really wrong with my english&#33; Waz

ScotchGuy
November 6th, 2003, 09:47
The words in your sentences tend to get switched around, or you leave out words.

Example:

"that&#39;s all that matters me&#33;"

It should read:

"That&#39;s all that matters to me&#33;"

The arrangement of the words seems a bit off, and akward sounding. It&#39;s not necessarily incorrect, and we can tell what you&#39;re tryng to say, (some of the time) but your sentences sound choppy and don&#39;t flow very well.

I can&#39;t tell what this means either:

"People do look for information that&#39;s given to them, Pakistan; huh, what the hell do you know"

It helps if you quote someone in your post, it makes it easier to understand who you&#39;re directing your comments to.

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 6th, 2003, 10:00
Alright&#33;
Thanks Scotch, I was quite annoyed, when you (i mean all of you), started to fire at me.

I never do this actually, I was posting all of these posts in a hurry. It won&#39;t happen again.

ScotchGuy
November 10th, 2003, 08:16
I just saw The Matrix: Revolutions and I was pleasantly surprised, it was good. There was a lot more action than in Reloaded and it was overall pretty fun to watch. Sometimes the acting was pretty weak and at times it was hard to take the film seriously.

Example:

Some commander of a ship (I think, I can&#39;t remember who it actually is) and Naiobi are arguing over the best route to take.

Commander: We could punch a hole through here and we might be able to make it through, it will be hard, but it&#39;s our only choice.
Naiobi: No it&#39;s not, we could travel through here and make it undetected.
Commander: Who cares&#33; No one can travel through a mechanical line.
Naiobi: I can, I&#39;ve done it before.
Morpheus: That was a long time ago.
Naiobi: I can still do it.
Commander: So what&#33;

The commander sounds like a little kid, I laughed pretty hard.

That and when the robots raise their firsts were priceless, it was hilarious.

The scene near the end with Neo and Smith was excellent, fighting was great, and so were the effects.

I liked the ending, sort of. It seemed a bit too perfect and nice, like a Disney film, but on the other hand it wasn&#39;t really. It depends on how you look at it.

I give it a 8.5/10.

Codeine
November 10th, 2003, 08:54
The big war scene was way to long, if it had a little more variety then a bunch of gunners standing in a circle and shooting Sentinels, it could have been better; it was filler, most of it.

The first couple of fight scenes were very impressive, and I really liked the battle between Neo and Smith in the Matrix, it was the definite high point in the movie for me.

The story though, was weak IMO. I felt like I was waiting for a really killer plot twist, something as shocking as The Empire Strikes Back, and blah, blah, blah..and it just felt ver anti-climatic. I thought the ending was stupid, it had the whole "its over&#33;...but wait....is it?" deal going on , and I really hope that that doesnt mean there are going to be sequels. I thought it was funny when Neo collapsed in a cross formation too.

ScotchGuy
November 10th, 2003, 09:00
Originally posted by Pornography@Nov 9 2003, 11:54 PM
The big war scene was way to long, if it had a little more variety then a bunch of gunners standing in a circle and shooting Sentinels, it could have been better; it was filler, most of it.

The first couple of fight scenes were very impressive, and I really liked the battle between Neo and Smith in the Matrix, it was the definite high point in the movie for me.

The story though, was weak IMO. I felt like I was waiting for a really killer plot twist, something as shocking as The Empire Strikes Back, and blah, blah, blah..and it just felt ver anti-climatic.
I agree with all of that.

As for the ending I didn&#39;t get the whole "its over&#33;...but wait....is it?" feeling. I thought the ending was nice and wrapped it up pretty well, even though it was somewhat predictable. I didn&#39;t predict the machine city part, but I&#39;m pretty sure they wont decide to make any more sequels, prequels on the other hand...

<><>
November 10th, 2003, 09:56
I fucking hated it

Jet Set Willy
November 10th, 2003, 10:01
I desperately need a weirder film to come out. Even independant stuff feels stale to me. There&#39;s a certain part of my mind which only becomes real through psychoactive drugs and dreams, and I&#39;d really like to see evidence in a film that other people have been to this strange place too.

Funnily enough, the sort of thing in my avatar is about as close as anybody&#39;s ever got to it...

Codeine
November 10th, 2003, 10:44
Originally posted by ScotchGuy+Nov 10 2003, 03:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ScotchGuy @ Nov 10 2003, 03:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pornography@Nov 9 2003, 11:54 PM
The big war scene was way to long, if it had a little more variety then a bunch of gunners standing in a circle and shooting Sentinels, it could have been better; it was filler, most of it.

The first couple of fight scenes were very impressive, and I really liked the battle between Neo and Smith in the Matrix, it was the definite high point in the movie for me.

The story though, was weak IMO. I felt like I was waiting for a really killer plot twist, something as shocking as The Empire Strikes Back, and blah, blah, blah..and it just felt ver anti-climatic.
I agree with all of that.

As for the ending I didn&#39;t get the whole "its over&#33;...but wait....is it?" feeling. I thought the ending was nice and wrapped it up pretty well, even though it was somewhat predictable. I didn&#39;t predict the machine city part, but I&#39;m pretty sure they wont decide to make any more sequels, prequels on the other hand... [/b][/quote]
Im reffering to the part where the Architect says: "You know that this isn&#39;t going to last", reffering to the goody good relationship between the machines, and Zion.

Codeine
November 10th, 2003, 10:47
Originally posted by Waz@Nov 10 2003, 04:01 AM
I desperately need a weirder film to come out. Even independant stuff feels stale to me. There&#39;s a certain part of my mind which only becomes real through psychoactive drugs and dreams, and I&#39;d really like to see evidence in a film that other people have been to this strange place too.

Funnily enough, the sort of thing in my avatar is about as close as anybody&#39;s ever got to it...
Waz, you must have seen that movie where everyone has a round head, and theres one with a conehead, and hes like, banished from his home. The narrators Ringo Starr.

THAT movie is one of the best movies ever made. Seriously.

Jet Set Willy
November 10th, 2003, 10:50
Coneheads? I remember Coneheads being some sort of comedy, possibly with Dan Akyroyd in it. I doubt that&#39;s what you&#39;re talking about.

Codeine
November 10th, 2003, 10:56
No, its a cartoon about a boy who has a cone shaped head, hes basically ostracized from his community, and bannished for something he didn&#39;t do. Its fucking great, weird animation, beautiful design. Very Alice In Wonderland.

I still can&#39;t remember its name, though.

Badger
November 10th, 2003, 13:27
Went to see revolutions last night and was disappointed with it. It just felt so artificial.


However I have a funny feeling that reloaded and revolutions were supposed to be 1 film about 3 hours long. and the 3rd part of the trilogy is still to come along.

Motoko
November 10th, 2003, 22:26
They are, those brothers said "Reloaded and Revolution are halves of one film." (actual qoute could be worded differently).

They also said there wern&#39;t going to be any more cinema movies. But the story will continue through games and maybe the Animatrix. Matrix Online (MMORG) will be out next year for the PC which continues on after the Revolutions.

Tidus_Flame
November 11th, 2003, 03:42
Originally posted by Pornography@Nov 10 2003, 04:56 AM
No, its a cartoon about a boy who has a cone shaped head, hes basically ostracized from his community, and bannished for something he didn&#39;t do. Its fucking great, weird animation, beautiful design. Very Alice In Wonderland.

I still can&#39;t remember its name, though.
the name of the show was "The Head"
it was so crazy with all the defected humans and the raisin guy who lived in his head

it was all crazy fun that was on teletoon around 2 a.m. for all those stoners that get the munchies, cant sleep, then decide to watch television

sound familiar?

Codeine
November 11th, 2003, 03:52
I&#39;m pretty sure it was called The Point.

And I think you&#39;ve seen it :D

Tidus_Flame
November 11th, 2003, 04:53
of course i have

but another suggestion i have is try watching tech wars by william shatner

Codeine
November 11th, 2003, 05:01
No.

You must have seen Fantasia Waz. That is brilliant.

El Fugitivo
November 11th, 2003, 05:50
Naked Lunch (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102511/)

Jet Set Willy
November 11th, 2003, 08:12
William S Burroughs isn&#39;t so much weird as broken.

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 11th, 2003, 09:31
OK I started to hate the Matrix Idea, right after I saw Revolutions.

Jet Set Willy
November 11th, 2003, 09:38
For once I agree with you.

M.H.A.Q.S.
November 11th, 2003, 09:52
I think that the concepts matter a lot, and the WBros had none, after the first matrix.

El Fugitivo
November 11th, 2003, 18:55
Burroughs&#39; book is really only half of the movie, the rest is a psuedo-semi-autobiography of Burroughs (by the wonderfully twisted David Cronenberg). It&#39;s hard to explain, really.

Jet Set Willy
November 11th, 2003, 19:21
Yeah, I saw it.

hitmonlee
November 13th, 2003, 03:50
*yawn*

what a shit movie
not as shit as terminator 3 though&#33;
maybe...

donkeyknob
November 15th, 2003, 11:34
i enjoyed t3 more then the crappy matrix trilogy. worst shit i ever seen. i will return here when im bored and write matrix 2+3 to how i see fit and provide lists of more interesting things

i walked out durin the machine vs zion fight, and that summary explained what i missed with exact detail i assume

Codeine
November 16th, 2003, 02:08
Now that I think about it, I really disliked all of the Matrix movies. I remembered hating the first one when I saw it, thats why I never watched the whole thing; Reloaded, however, I really enjoyed (in theaters), but once I rented it, my interst in it dropped susstantially; Revolutions was better than the second one, but I really dislike it all the same.

I pray to God that no more sequels/prequels will be released in the future.