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    Question Still Trying to Fix Trough Doors Problem

    Hi, still seeking an answer to why I cannot equip an item and maintain it as I pass through a door . Because of this I cannot retrieve the set of missiles in the overhanging rock in Maridia. I know nothing about thses types of things, roms, ems... so I'm including some OPTIONS info on the ZSNESW151. And if anyone knows what should be checked or whatever to make it possible for me to pass through a door and hold an equipped item or make that Shinespark, please help me to figure it out.

    Under SYSTEMS: Enable MMX Support is checked; Disable Power Management is also Checked: Unchecked are Pause EMU In Background and Increase EMU Priority.

    Next is GFX ENGINES --------------------- SSHOTS:
    Checked Use New GFX ENG -------------- BMP (white circle)
    ------------------------------------------------ PNG (black dot circle)
    Under ROM:
    All 3 options are checked, they are: Log ROM INFO; Show ROM Info On Load; Enable IPS Auto-Patching

    The OVERLAYS are unchecked: Show Clock; Show FPS Center on EMU Load.

    The MESSAGES are both unchecked: Show SMALL or TRANSPARENT TEXT


    Thanks all...
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    Default Re: Still Trying to Fix Trough Doors Problem

    I dont know what game we are talking about here, or what emulator for that matter? zsnes maybe? but this is not fixable via settings, its a internal emulation bug. The only way to get through that door is like so.

    save game data
    load data in another emulator ( assuming this is snes, try bsnes )
    save game data
    go back to your emulator and hope you dont have to do this again.
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    Default Re: Still Trying to Fix Trough Doors Problem

    Sorry... the game is Super Metroid and the emulator or rom whatever is a ZSNESW151.

    I posted it that way because that's the way it is in my Documents.

    Aside from my previous topic about the emulator, has there ever been talk about this problem? If the problem can't be fixed then the emulator shouldn't have been put out. The way it is, you cannot achieve 100% of Super Metroid.

    Isn't anyone in here tech savvy enough to at least tell me what was left out of the em? Why this failure occurs...

    Thanks

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    OMG??? dude really?

    If the problem can't be fixed then the emulator shouldn't have been put out.
    If this is trully how you feel, you need to rethink what emulation is about. This is not a job? zsnes has many games that dont even play let alone many many bugs. I beat the entire game in snes9x but if you want a bug free emulator there is only one in existence. Bnes is a 100% complete no bugs reported emulator for the snes. Its a very slow emulator because its does not use emulation tricks to speed up the games that cause bugs. So if you computer is not top of the line the game may be way to slow.

    All emulators are in beta unless otherwise stated. No emulator can ever be perfect because this is all guess work. Emulating is not like coding, there is no start or end. The authors just do what they can to make as many games run fast/best as possible. The only way to know everything would require Nintendo to help, and they would never do that. Bsnes had a test team and they are %100 sure there are no errors in any games.

    tech savvy has nothing to do with your problem. There is no know issue reported like what you mentioned. You have simply discovered a bug and I dont see it mentioned anywhere on the net. The only way to fix this is to replay the game ( may happen again ) or use another emulator. If you want to be sure its going to work then you will need to play the game with bsnes.

    Save states can be converted. Look on google for that sort of thing. For example "convert zsnes saves to snes9x saves".
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    Default Re: Still Trying to Fix Trough Doors Problem

    ulaoulao, I'm not a dude. Now that that's out of the way... I came here for help not to be jeered at. I have had this game on this em for more than 3 yrs and each time I play it in any of the files the same thing always happens.

    So what I'm actually hoping for is someone who may have played Super Metroid on the ZSNESW151 and had this same thing occur or was able to get the set of missiles from the rock in Maridia.

    I know to you you probably think the entire world of vid game players know all about the systems they use or the EMs but I don't. I know next to nothing about Ems, Roms, or whatever they're called. SO I come to a site called EMULATOR ZONE hoping you guys know all the answers. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. However, I'm still hoping someone will post having played this thing.

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    So what I'm actually hoping for is someone who may have played Super Metroid on the ZSNESW151 and had this same thing occur
    You won't. With that I bit you well, good luck.
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    Why must you be so negative! Are you telling me I'm the only person who has ever played SM on this application? Or that I'm the only one to complain about it. I'm in the Nintendo Forum so hopefully someone will post.

    In the meantime, I want to ask this... when I got this thing I couldn't play the way it was set up as far as ease of play. the buttons were all wrong for me. So... I clicked the RESET button to hopefully reset the buttons and make them more user friendly for me. Could doing that have had some affect on the ability to pass through doors while equipped? Or is there something in the input that I could double check?

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    I'm negative because you wont comprehend and understand what I'm telling you and you have not even tried my suggestions. My last comment was me saying, ok dont want my help I'm done. So here you are again continuing to assume my intent is bad and once again you are wrong.


    Also lets touch back here for a second?
    Hi, still seeking an answer to why I cannot equip an item and maintain it as I pass through a door
    I have always read that as just in one spot. Because if you are in Maridia you should have collected and passed thru many doors by now, yes? If this is not correct you may want to explain in full detail the issue. If this is just in this one spot then please read on.


    Are you telling me I'm the only person who has ever played SM on this application?
    No and dont call it an application because that is not what it is. Its simply an emulator.
    Or that I'm the only one to complain about it
    No lots of people dont like znes, most people use an emulator called snes9x but as I pointed out, and to your entire point of this thread, bsnes is the best and 100% complete. Its very possible that you are the only one anle enough to worry about a pack missiles. You don't need them? You should have many missiles by now.
    Could doing that have had some affect on the ability to pass through doors while equipped?
    Ok I know you admitted you know noting of this stuff so I'll say this nicely. No.
    Or is there something in the input that I could double check?
    and no...

    Ok here is the deal GIRL ( I assume since you are not a "dude" you must be a girl, why that matter I dont know? ) First the answer to you problem is above. I'm sorry you dont understand what I wrote but its up there. Now I know you dont know a thing about how emulation works but I'm going to have to explain it in some simple terms to that I can help you, understand my advice.

    Lets try an analogy here. Since I dont know what you are in to, ill make an assumption, sorry if I'm wrong. CARS! now, you dont have to be a master tech but just have some idea how a car works. I'm going to make you a chip for your car so you can go faster. This chip talks to the car and makes some guesses. There is no way to make this chip work unless we test it first. so I give you the chip and you give it a go. You report back to me that 5 things failed. I take those things in to account and give you a new VERSION. After x amount of time going back and forth we get what we think a solid working chip. So the version is now zero'd, that means a whole number, call it version 1. Few years go by more improvement now its version 2. ect ect...

    Emulation is the same thing, we are trying to make a program act like a console. So we start with an idea and go thru the same changes. ZSNESW151 is not the 151th version its the first version with a minor upgrade and 1 fix.

    1.5.1
    | | |___a fix
    | |____minor upgrade
    |_____version 1

    ( note to the critics, yeah I know there are other versioning methods but its still a good way to help understand )

    So its clear to me its NOT COMPLETE!!!!

    If it was zsnesw 1 or 1.0 or 2 or maybe 3, I'd feel better about it.

    Ok so now we get it right? Your Emulator is not complete, not finished, bugs exist, get over it!

    Ok back to smiles now. So what are you going to do to fix the problem you have, you pick.


    1. Bitch at the author until he fixes it. Good luck. or maybe try their forums.
    2. Use an emulator that works, Well only bsnes will be guaranteed.
    3. Convert your save state to another emulator and continue to use that one instead.
    4. Convert your save state to another emulator and get the missile, then convert back.
    5. find a new rom and start all over. I dont think the rom is bad but its possible.
    6. Make your own emulator. Guessing this is not your first choice.
    7. Continue to complain and watch this thread die and you will never get your missiles.
    8. use the game genie sheet code to get it maybe.
    9. buy these two things
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Ninted...item51b80fdc0f
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Metroi...item1e862babaa

    Look, you're new to this I get it, but I'm not new to people like you. Emulation is a gift, its not an application. Its like asking a donator of money, for more money. The authors do this for fun, not to please you. This is not a bought application, its a free version of someone's hard efforts and work, try to respect that.

    Pick one of the above and I will help you with it. Except for 1,6,7,8 or 9. Your on your own there.



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    If you mean theses missiles. I have gotten them with snes9x many times and walked though many doors. From what I remember I got them with the charge boots.
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    While boy/girl is accepted as sexes, it shouldn't be applied to all females. I consider a girl to be under the age of 12, since that was me years and two boys ago, I prefer lady or woman in that context. Btw, I detest the use of the "B" word at and in all instances. It is totally demeaning even to woman who don't have enough respect for themselves to not use the term on themselves.

    Now, I will smply thank you for your replies and drop the subject. I'm the type person who doesn't like to quit if there is a possible solution I can see. If indeed this is a flaw in the programming of the EMulator then others must have loaded this ZSNESW and encountered it as well.

    So I won't belabor the situation. As for loading another or the (BSNEW) or whatever, I have 3 ems, all were emailed to me fully programmed and all I had to do was open them; as I am not tech savvy and not wanting to damage this machine (we all encounter money probs at some point) I don't try to load anything without asking a million questions. It's the reason I use the ISP I use.

    At any rate I'm not sure if loading another em would not crash my machine. I have asked but often ppl just don't want to be bothered even in a computer help site. I'm not using a TOTL comp but an eMachine, a 1gig emachine (I think) It's been a while.

    Anyway.. thank you again.

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    Your computer is way to week for much else. I'd suggest snes9x if you plan to try another. Emulators don't "crash" systems. Windows has from day one built in a thing most refer to as the blue screen of death to prevent crashing your system. If anything it will crash itself and you will have to end the task.

    I dont see anything else in that post relevant to reply to other then your welcome.
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