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    Default not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    OK, going to throw this out there:

    I've read questions from people about emulating a PS3 and it seems to be regarded as not possible due to the processing power required to run an emulator which effectively sits on a box and uses some other sort of OS to then emulate the console OS and run the game.

    So what if you built something out of the same hardware as used in the PS3 (it's available) and then simply ran the real games on that?

    No roms or hacks etc but the same spec'd hardware to run the purchased games? Am I mad?

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    So what you're saying is why not make a PS3 from a kit rather than buy one that's already put together?.

    That's not emulation thats actually running the games on the hardware they are designed to work with.

    A bit like saying would Genesis emulation be better if you ran the games on a real Genesis rather than a PC???!!!!.

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    Am I mad?
    I would say fairly borderline, yes.

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    I'm fairly certain there are bound to be proprietary chips and functions you aren't going to be able to get over the counter.. However this would be one hell of an interesting project.

    Assuming the parts can be had, your biggest obstacle is either going to be obtaining chips that mimic proprietary function, and getting your hands on a BIOS, or BIOS code that can be flashed onto a chip.

    I can't imagine obtaining the CPUs/GPU's is going to be cheaper than just buying the whole damn unit from a store though. Unless you plan to salvage a couple units that are otherwise dead, but have intact CPU's and other chips you can use.

    You'll also have to be one hell of a wizard with industrial soldering
    Last edited by Zach; January 30th, 2009 at 18:21.

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by FatTrucker View Post
    A bit like saying would Genesis emulation be better if you ran the games on a real Genesis rather than a PC???!!!!.
    I probably should have discussed the emulation bit: you could basically spec for the top, most powerful one (PS#) but then use that to run the others. And of course you'd have to run something to emulate on the hardware because you wouldn't get the propoer OS. I know the Xbox360 is effectively just a PC wrapped in a nice box and all the stuff is available off the shelf, and the PS3 even uses that IBM chip.

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    AFAIK, it's not the same IBM chip. I read somewhere Sony turned the first chip down, probably wanted something more powerful which took longer to develop. In the meantime IBM offered tha "old" chip to MS. Anyway, the punchline of the story I read was that in a sense, Sony had been paying development costs for the chip being used in Xbox. Something like that.

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    Isn't Sony still making a loss on every sold PS3? That would mean building the machine you want would be more expensive than a PS3

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    You can't "make" a loss

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    You can't "make" a loss
    thats true, but what should you say then, lose a loss?

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Zach View Post
    You can't "make" a loss
    Haha! Got me there, Zach

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    Default Re: not to emulate with a PC but how about with real hardware

    Well if you really must know, the correct way to say it would be "Isn't Sony still selling them at a loss?"


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