The ultimate controller box has begun AKA Bliss-Box

[ulaoulao]

Brilliant!!!

this is great, do you need me to send you nes parts to make molds or do you have those?

keep up the good work. so is the eta still sometime around christmas/newyear?

LOL ya Genome It's still hacking away.. No need to double post Ok so the latest images are xbox molds..



Nothing fancy here, but in good news,. WE HAVE RUMBLE on the way!! Turns out rumble is not going to be hard for any sticks that support it. Also in the works and I dont think in time for this year is mem pack support. It is a WIP and I mean a WIP... but looking promising.

Ok so enough with the good news there is a down note. The Dream Cast is not easy.. They wrote their own protocol for usb-ish communication and its not easy to emulate. The alternative is to pop for the adapters that are out there and I can just add them in mine. So its not a stopper but makes for a bit of a price bump.

Oh and Genome If you have a molded casing you want to ship me for your "project" send it to me. I'm ready to start your build. Unless you just want to wait till I get one done and rip it apart your self. You choice, I'm game either way. To answer you question "christmas/newyear?" I would say its close. but all the parts are ready minus some fine tuning.

So first) send me your face plate/mold - or pass on this and accept my undecided design.

and second) decided if you want a cheep price (No talk in this topic about price, I respect this board too much) But if you need it cheep you will not get it by 2008. If the price is flexible then I can just add the adapters that are not ready but purchasable off ebay, and add them in. (( lets keep this part to PM's though ) ))

[Genome]

great to hear an update sorry about the double post i just have become really excited about my project again (my arcade parts came!!!)

i dont have any specific idea for case or molding. my entire project has taken a facelift so now i need to decide how much space the blissbox will take before i could say what a kind of a faceplate. i will probably just go with what you provide.

i will pm you to figure out more details.

btw very nice

[ulaoulao]

Well If I were you I would use just a face plate, but if you want a box so be it..

Ok BlissBox news:

Here is my test design. You can mouse over the icons to simulate the lights. I may improve on the flash over time, but for now its up for criticizing... I would love all of any feed back on this good or bad, even down right mean... I looked far and wide for a trapezoid and found nothing.. so it's going to be a box.

http://bliss-box.net/blissbox/blissbox4.swf


and btw: I have no friggen clue what intelevision connectors look like, I'm hopping db9. If any one knows please tell me...

also custom boxes are a go. I can fit up to four in a psx adapter, in most cases, just depends. So if anyone has a requests hit me up with a PM..

[Genome]

eerrr yeah a face plate. sorry that is what i need. i will design something this weekend and send it to ya. (i confused myself my fault )

love the idea, will leds increase the cost though? i could go without if it saves $$. if it doesnt affect cost though nvm.

preferably for mine i dont like the box idea. as you said a face plate is what i need.

i will photoshop something for up.

anyway great start, im happy.

i searched for intellivision nothing yet will update if i find more.

[ulaoulao]

love the idea, will leds increase the cost though?

- LED's are free.. You just desolder them out of old stuff LOL. and other wise you just buy them for 0.01 cents at mouser.com...

Make sure to include measurements in photoshop... hight and width.

Here is the new power supply..

Top view with USB wire connected.


Bottom view with USB wire connected.


Here is the stack of boards ready for production YAY !!


This is the board I used found at Radio Shack


Here is the color coordination layout.


This is the schematic



bliss box Power Supply v 1.0
The power supply is operated from a USB 1 or 2.0 source. A regulator is installed only for N64 joysticks. This gives a solid 3.3 volts witch contrary to popular belief is how they want to operate. This helps prevents the jumpy button madness and other undesired results.

so we have:

a 3.3 output for N64

a 5 volt untouched output

a usb data +

a usb data -

a ground.

and a shield

The regulator is still not decided I'm experimenting with the LP2950 3.3V for now..

V2.0 will include rumble not sure how to achieve that yet may just use a big all capacitor and a transformer of sorts.

I decided to use a usb cable instead of the jack so that it will save money. I can make the cables for 40 cents that beats a 15 dollar cable any day.. plus I can make them any length...

[Genome]

wow i didnt know they were that cheap anywhere. at radio shack here they are $3 each. lol nvm then

looks really great! my project is coming together very well (despite all the setbacks). the box is god, it completes it so well. my project wouldnt have a leg to stand on without it.

[ulaoulao]

this seems like a pretty good project, and if it where for sale, i'd definitely buy it! still, here's a suggestion:
would you be able to make it like, attach, to all consoles? like instead of just pc, it works in gamecube, PS2, Dreamcast etc. so that if you only have a gamecube controller you could plug it into a PS2 and use it on that? you know, i think this sounded better in my head but what the heck.
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- dude haunter=best, I never saw that post. strange?? Turns out I just had this conversation with a buddy from work. I was thinking of having a special 12 pin output that would connect to one of many pigtail adapter so that you could play any controller on any system. It may not be available up front but I'm considering it. Since XBOX is usb that one is already done like that.

Ya Genome, they are cheep. RadioShack is the worst place for electronics. They are one of the only places left that sell them for such outrageous prices. And are the demise to Alide electronics.. Glad to here you project is coming along.



Ok I scratched the 4 player version. It will be available upon request only. My focus is changed to the one player box for way too many reasons. You can always make 4

I ordered a box, here is a sketch up..

http://bliss-box.net/blissbox/blissbox1.swf


Its about 5(in length) x 3 (tall) x 2(wide) Depending how it sits..

It will have a battery or 9 volt plug for rumble
a usb out (posible others cables for systems)
and the switch on top.

Yes Genome, Ill still make the four player for you. Also I was thinking for your project you could get a cheep rectifier or use the power from the monitor to shake the crap out of it with a big ac motor. All you need is the rumble signal from my box. That or a 24 volt DC motor . Imagine that mega rumble support...

[Genome]

i sent the email with the dimensions to ya.

know anywhere i can buy usb 2.0 connectors real cheap? i still have to convert my xbox controllers to usb.

looking great. i will have everything by 2008 except a 1tb hdd, all the controllers i need, and the blissbox. i am very patient though and they are all worth the wait

[haunter=best]

i dont know if its a bit late for suggestions, but would it be possible to like, use a gamecube controller on say, a dreamcast emulator? or would you have to go out and buy the controllers for each port?

[Genome]

if im right there is already support. and if there is you can use any controller with any emulator. the controllers arent hard wired into the emulator. its fully customizable. in fact i often use my usb nes controller to play mario 64.