Mame++ and Street Fighter III 3rd Strike

[t1337Dude]

Two questions.

1) Why doesn't anyone use the latest Mame++ emulator? Everyone is using the July 12th builds.

2) 70% I'd try to play with a friend, my emulator won't actually load the ROM and it'll just sit there at a black screen. How do I fix this?

[Epsi]

you answerd your own questions. the reason no uses the latest mame plus build is coase most of the time its buggy. like your experiancing.

[t1337Dude]

you answerd your own questions. the reason no uses the latest mame plus build is coase most of the time its buggy. like your experiancing.

Thanks, but the reason I upgraded in the first place was because I'd get a weird "error : something something option c" for half my ROMs. Maybe I was using an early version? Oh well, thanks, I'll try that out.

[Epsi]

Try useing just plain mame32. if that gives you the same problems, then the problem isnt with mame.

[t1337Dude]

Alright, I reverted to an earlier version and all is good. I have one more question though - where can I keep up on information about the latest Mame++ Netplay games and such? Is there a forum that is more specific to this? It feels odd to play things such recently cracked and I wouldn't have figured it out without many google searches. I'd like to keep on top of these things.

[Epsi]

sounds like what your looking for is on that grey area between legal and ilegal. Robert will most likely be able to help you.

[isamu]

does anyone know where I can grab mame++ 0.117? I've looked everywhere.

[jpcline004]

does anyone know where I can grab mame++ 0.117? I've looked everywhere.

MAME PPK ( MAME Plus + Kaillera) is an illegal build because it goes against the wishes of the MAME dev team. MAME is open sourced but Kaillera is not, so that is the problem. You can try googling it but its pretty hard to find now but anyway Kaillera doesn't seem to work anymore.

[Zach]

It is sheer idiocy to say that you can't compile something and / or distribute it because it incorporates features of a closed source program..

It may be a GPL violation in some way but seriously..

How many emulators include Kaillera? It's just a netplay package.. It wasn't source code created and donated by the public in any sense. It doesn't take anything away from MAME and frankly I find it appalling that such a large project doesn't have its own, open source, superior netplay code.

Frankly I find the whole idea of the GPL to be hypocritical.. I am not necesarrily against it, as people deserve some protection.. But at the same time, how can people claim to want an open source utopia where all code is free, but then if someone wants to take that code and modify it in some way and create a viable commercial enterprise with it, it is somehow illegal and "wrong".. If you can't accept the consequences of wanting free code available to anyone for their own purposes, then don't release your code...

People can say what they want.. But I find commercial software to be superior to open source competitive alternatives in many cases... especially the usability/GUI department.. It's getting better, but still.. Commercial is not the devil, and neither is closed source.

I'm sure I've just opened a can of worms I'll regret but I still have the freedom not to respond... hah.. until that becomes a GPL requirement to "free communications on Internet Bulletin Board Systems" or some BS....lol

[jpcline004]

The can of worms is right here :
http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads...new=1209292005

I really just can't understand why Kaillera can't hold itself to the same standard it has for MAME. Basically they want the MAME source to do whatever they see fit, but don't want anyone to do the same with their source code. All they would have to do is go open source with a similar license as MAME and there would be no problem. They might benefit too as I'm sure someone could find and fix the alleged security weaknesses of Kaillera.

The sheer hypocrisy of the situation can be summed up by how Kaillera is responding to the Open K project:

The new owner of Kaillera has announced that he will release copyright/trademark notices along with their new upcoming Kaillera releases to make any unofficial kaillera related development illegal.

Now is that ironic or what?