Is there a reason why new users can't read the rules?
Seriously, I've seen 5-6 topics on the Nintendo Emulator board this week alone asking about how to obtain roms....It's not hard to spend a few minutes of reading what the rules are before joining people. There's also no so hard idea of actually looking it for yourself using Google. Don't get me started on how many messages I'm getting daily from news asking the same question, "hiii, duh, i wAnt Rom@!///! , Wjhre dID u GEt urS@>1?
No joke, some of them actually wrote like that.
Re: Is there a reason why new users can't read the rules?
That's life on the Internet for you. Be it ex forum members jerking around or some moron who just wants roms.. Morons never stop to read things, especially if they are only interested in furthering their goal
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See now I kinda sit on the fence here.
Yeah people should read the rules and know not to ask for roms but lets face it it's just a forum and the rules are pretty common sense sorts of stuff. And what's the worst that can happen if you break them? You can get banned and have to sign up again or banned permenantly and aren't any worse off than before so you can see why people don't bother.
On the other hand I work on the idea of emulation being about preservation and extending the life and enjoyment of otherwise 'dead' games so in my mind such roms should be free to distribute. Of course new school emulation for the DS PS2 and so on is more about seeing if it is possible to emulate these systems and about beating the challanges that crop up. These systems I feel shouldn't have free roms since they are still in the market.
Sadly though only a small percentage of emulation fans have this view with the majority are just trying to get copywritten games without paying for them without a care about the thought and work that's went into them.
Anyways I've lost my point.....
Yeah emm old school roms for out dated systems that are no longer on sale on there original format should be free to distribute, new school games shouldn't. Sadly because of the amount of moochers out their it'll never be.
But that's still off-topic, what was the question, oh yeah emm cause there assholes that's why.
Do you ever think you might be taking things just a little bit too seriously?
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Why do they always want pokemon?
If anyone was to PM me with such a stupid request I would paste the PM in a thread for everyone to laugh at!
On a more serious note, are ALL roms banned, or are homebrew and freely released ones allowed?
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Every commercial ROM are not allowed to be freely distributed on the net. That means homebrew ROMs can be freely distributed.
No matter how old a ROM is or if it's not being sold anymore, it's still illegal. A game copyright can last up to 70 years from its creation, release or whatever. Anyway, oldish games for Nintendo Wii's Virtual Console are still being sold, aren't they?
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And don't forget handheld remakes..
Although to be fair, there are a few titles out there that have been released after the original company responsible for it was contacted. However these are usually on less known systems (I think Commodore 64 for instance) that no one but true fans are interested in anyway.
Trouble is, no real way to verify those kinds of things in a timely manner, etc.
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They sure are Butters you can buy old games from the Nes and SNes and probably some others at the Wii shop using Wii points or whatever it is. I don't have a Wii but I've got a friend who done some shopping this way. The usual capitalist dogs sucking that extra couple of pennies.
Copyright can also be extended for further periods if the copyright owner wishes to do so. I think after 70 years an application can be made to extend copyright for a further 20 years and if granted further applications can be made once that 20 years is up. There was a court case I read about this some where (I think I got the link from this site) quite interesting if you can be bothered finding it.
I love the term Abandonware its great. Basicly it is used to describe items, typically roms, for out of date, dead systems where most of the companies have went bankrupt and shutdown. The idea is since these companies no longer exist; are no longer making money from the material and have long forgotten about it it is ok to share it. This term is of course bullcrap. From a legal point of view there is no such thing as Abandonware, copywrite exists well after owners die or companies close down. Still a great term though, created so that stealing others work would be more socially acceptable, genius!
Zach has hit the nail on the head with regards to removing copywrite. The only way it can be removed before the 70 year time limit is by the author openly stating that he reliquishes the copywrite on his material and accepts that it is now in the public domain. And as said this is very hard to verify.
Oh I should also point out Pokemon's pretty good but there are a lot of better games out there.
So what's the rules regarding linking to Public Domain roms and Abandonware??
Do you ever think you might be taking things just a little bit too seriously?
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Abandonware = no.. That's pretty self explanatory.
Public domain roms are fine. EZ hosts some public domain roms if I recall correctly.
Just be careful not to link to a site that has other material besides public domain, because it would still violate the rules
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There is Rastersoft, who makes the roms for Frog Feast, and you can download them at their site. Is that allowed here?
And, Mamedev have some roms that were handed over by the CEO of Gottlieb, for the purposes of emulation. Is that allowed here?
P.S. I'm only asking, please don't ban me!
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I know what you mean I'm surprised we've managed to even discuss this rule without getting our heads in a vice lolOriginally Posted by Robert
And I can't see me ever wanting to link to them since most the ones I've played are pretty pants but it's nice to know you can.
Have you guys found sites that ask for votes onto the Emu Top 40 or whatever site it is before letting you in and then find that there are no roms on the site anywhere? I've found that quite a lot but I'm still not 100% sure if I'm just being daft or no.
Do you ever think you might be taking things just a little bit too seriously?
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