Make your own Xbox to USB addaptor

Did anyone know this? or try is and can report its successful?

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All ya need are basic soldering skills and a few parts. If your xbox pad has one of those break away connectors, all you need is an xbox extension cable and a cheap usb mouse (to salvage the cable from. it's cheaper then buying an actual cable). Strip the cables, match up the wires, install xbcd, and there ya go. I made one to use for my beat pad pro and it works perfectly.

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- I mean I know the xbox is nothing more the a min i computer, but dd they make it that easy?

Yeah, it really is that easy. The controllers for Xbox and 360 are nothing more than ordinary USB devices.

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Is there anyway to use the wireless 360 controllers on a wireless laptop without having to buy that wireless adapter for the PC?

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Originally Posted by TchuBacha

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Is there anyway to use the wireless 360 controllers on a wireless laptop without having to buy that wireless adapter for the PC?

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10 to one says its just a usb device to rf, so yes you could open it and install a usb cable. You could keep the rf in tack and by passing it would not cause any harm. Is the controller for the 360 different from the xbox I ? If so I may be looking in to this my self.

and Given the fact its Microsoft you know they did it cheap, so its most likly the same controller with a little rf send unit in side.

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Originally Posted by ulaoulao

10 to one says its just a usb device to rf, so yes you could open it and install a usb cable. You could keep the rf in tack and by passing it would not cause any harm. Is the controller for the 360 different from the xbox I ? If so I may be looking in to this my self.

and Given the fact its Microsoft you know they did it cheap, so its most likly the same controller with a little rf send unit in side.

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They are both USB devices (Xbox1 uses USB 1.1, and 360 uses 2.0), but the Device ID's are undoubtedly different.

blueshogin96 you sound like you know alot about the hardware side of the Xbox and Xbox 360. Do you think it would be possible to use a Wireless 360 controller on a laptop wirelessly, maybe through a hardware modification?

The only offical way requires a usb adaptor to get it to run. But it seems silly buying a wireless adaptor to connect a wireless controller to a wireless laptop.

Yeah, I do agree it does sound rather silly.

I don't really know a whole lot about 360's hardware, but Xbox1 is a different story. I'm not sure how to do that but it would be great to know. I don't know much about how wireless devices work :( maybe someone at Xbox Scene might have some ideas.

IIRC, the 360 wireless controller runs at 2.4ghz, but aren't 802.11 or Bluetooth protocols.

I may tackle this. I dont think it will be hard to do unless M$ encoded the R/F single. Ill let you know...

Stupid idea but...

You know that slot for a microphone? Couldn't you just buy a microphone see what components are inside and buy a usb cable and make your own connection for it (which fits into the xbox slot) then join the cable and connector together?

I know it's weird since like the microphone runs off a totally different cable compared to a usb cable but couldn't you change what wires are inside the connector to match the wires inside the usb cable?

insanemaniak, I think your talking apples here, and we are on oranges. But let me get what you mean..

First off a mic jack is 2 or 3 wires and holds analog data. A usb cable has 4 data + and - and +5 volts and ground. Now.. you could use a mic jack aka phono jack to transfer usb data, but you one cable shy.. Now if your suggesting getting data off of a phono jack on a 360 controller then the answer is no.. I dont however know what jack your referring to.


If this jack is more the 3 wires it may be possible to use it for a cable, but the mic part woudl be no good since it now has data on it.. It would be a lot easier to install your own cable.


No questions are stupid.. Only those that think they know all the answer are stupid ;')

I was refering to the microphone as a example, i wasn't saying use the microphone as a connector, i said (I Quote) ''see what components are inside and buy a usb cable and make your own connection for it.'' I ment like build your own connection hub to the xbox 360 joypad by using the microphone as a outline and then add your own components in the microphone with the relevent data on it that connects with the usb and works as a link? Or just make an entirely new connection which fits into the xbox 360 controller but of your own design that also connects to a usb cable therefore connecting to a computer?

insanemaniak, it was not 100% clear what you were suggesting and as I stated..

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you could use a mic jack aka phono jack to transfer usb data, but you one cable shy..

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so if you meant..

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I ment like build your own connection hub to the xbox 360 joypad by using the microphone as a outline and then add your own components

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as you retorted. then again " as a outline" I take as you mean use the "mic" jack as a cable out. Again this is totally cool, I get cha' but your missing a cable if its a standard mic out. Now again I dont know what type of cable it is.. But to answer you question..

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Or just make an entirely new connection which fits into the xbox 360 controller but of your own design that also connects to a usb cable therefore connecting to a computer?

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Yes you can... as I said.. a few posts back..

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10 to one says its just a usb device to rf, so yes you could open it and install a usb cable. You could keep the rf in tack and by passing it would not cause any harm. Is the controller for the 360 different from the xbox I ? If so I may be looking in to this my self.

and Given the fact its Microsoft you know they did it cheap, so its most likly the same controller with a little rf send unit in side.

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- So yes I would personally suggest a new cable and keep every thing intact. Now here is the trick. The joystick by default transfers RF singles to a receiver. But As I said, I think Micro$oft most likely took the cheep way out and just used a usb RF generator. And if my guess is correct, bingo you don't even need any addition hardware. If on the other hand it is not usb ready, then you would need to either make a RF receiver to usb, NOT HARD... (and they already exist) then write software (aka drivers) to convert that to HID complaint or use a programmable rom and convert it in the game pad. Eith way, its possible given its not encoded.

Some one on this board also stated they plan to make there next joystick usb and ditch the wireless. If this rumor is true then my first though will fly....

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blueshogin96 you sound like you know alot about the hardware side of the Xbox and Xbox 360. Do you think it would be possible to use a Wireless 360 controller on a laptop wirelessly, maybe through a hardware modification?

The only offical way requires a usb adaptor to get it to run. But it seems silly buying a wireless adaptor to connect a wireless controller to a wireless laptop.

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- sorry TchuBacha I didn't quite understand what you were asking. I do now.. I saw this adapter the other night at my friends house. So what you are asking is can it be used with the wireless Ethernet port (wifi)? If so I know the xbox 360 uses WiFi but the wifi card is a totally different protocol. Is it possible, yes. easy . I don't think so. We would need to get an open source SDK for wifi or a know package and write some code. I still think its encrypted though...

Isn't this alot of work? I'm surpised by the amount of information posted and didn't realize how it was possible.

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Isn't this alot of work? I'm surpised by the amount of information posted and didn't realize how it was possible.

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- Not sure what you meant. the only "work" involved here so far is typing?

I'm sorry, reading through most of the post, i see what your talking about. I was confused and was assuming something else :p

AerisHeaven, ah no harm done ;)

For wired 360 controllers for PC, Why don't you just buy the ones that come with the Core model seperatly?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Controller.jpg

And for those without the wired controller or knowing how to get one by itself ^(o_o)v . How do you hook up a Wireless controller to PC? Do you have to buy anything special to do so?

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And for those without the wired controller or knowing how to get one by itself ^(o_o)v . How do you hook up a Wireless controller to PC? Do you have to buy anything special to do so?

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You need to create the adapter for that, so far there is nothing out there that does this. I'm planning on attemting this on a few wireless controllers.

So basicly you need to make something to hook up to your PC, Like some kind of USB wireless device?
Would this device be able to work for 98SE? (I sure as hell hope so)

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So basicly you need to make something to hook up to your PC, Like some kind of USB wireless device?

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- yes

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Would this device be able to work for 98SE?

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- No, you would not be able to find the drivers to support 98.

on a side note an xbox is just a usb device so in lu of your other topic, if you have an xbox controller you could "twist, and tie" the wires together to get a usb device in this case. It would work for the wireless too you just need to open it up.

Why!? Its a CONTROLLER! It can't be THAT DAMN HARD to have a computer read!

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Originally Posted by RiderLeangle

Why!? Its a CONTROLLER! It can't be THAT DAMN HARD to have a computer read!

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If it's not that hard then how come no one has done it yet?? Seriously, writing a driver is not an easy task unless you are fluent with driver programming and have FULL hardware documentation on what you are writing a driver for. Things don't just magically work, they need to have a driver to make it work for your PC. And in order to write a driver, you need the Windows DDK which you need permission from microsoft to obtain.

There's no need to take it to that tone :mad: If device X doesn't work with whatever OS you want it to, that's too bad. Sorry if my reaction was a bit extreme but you sound as if you don't realize the difficulties of reverse engineering hardware. If it were easy, we'd have enough information to write a 360 emu right about now with compatibility, but not speed.

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Why!? Its a CONTROLLER! It can't be THAT DAMN HARD to have a computer read!

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- that is like saying why wont my garage door opener turn on my coffee pot.

let me dumb this down a bit:

The controller talks to a receiver via a lingo. Take for example the metaphor sign language. First you need to be able to see, then you need to learn the signs. Same thing with the controller. First you need to be able to see the signal ( a receiver) then you need to decode it so you will be able to process it. It is not like its magic, there is a way to do things. you cant just plug up a to b and get c.

Well transfering signals can't be so hard its impossible for 98SE to use!

its not hard, just not that many interested yet. I'm planning on making a universal wireless adapter but not till I create some revenue on my current box.

SE, sure not that tricky but it is so antiquated, I mean really why use 98 any more?

heck for all we know someone may have done it already, would not hurt to search around.

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SE, sure not that tricky but it is so antiquated, I mean really why use 98 any more?

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Because when you got your computer XP was full of security holes and errors so you downgraded then your CD drive broke so you can't upgrade.

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its not hard, just not that many interested yet. I'm planning on making a universal wireless adapter but not till I create some revenue on my current box.

heck for all we know someone may have done it already, would not hurt to search around.

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So basicly someone could make an addapter that reads 360 controller wireless signals (and hopefully is easy to homebrew) but no one WANTS to make one?

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Because when you got your computer XP was full of security holes and errors so you downgraded then your CD drive broke so you can't upgrade.

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- You sound like your talking in the 90'ds? thats all old news, Windows in it's self has security issues and always will. As its the most popular platform its the biggest target. Xp is not that bad, it is the best m$ product out there for gaming.

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So basicly someone could make an addapter that reads 360 controller wireless signals (and hopefully is easy to homebrew) but no one WANTS to make one?

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- Yes it could be done, but no not easy. I'm sure people want to , and have tried. Just that most would give up, and deiced its not worth it.

[QUOTE=ulaoulao;87846]- You sound like your talking in the 90'ds? thats all old news, Windows in it's self has security issues and always will. As its the most popular platform its the biggest target. Xp is not that bad, it is the best m$ product out there for gaming. /QUOTE]

Finally.... A non-bias opinion about one of Microsofts products. :bow:

TchuBacha, are you suggesting my opinions towards m$ er, Microsoft are bias?

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Originally Posted by ulaoulao

TchuBacha, are you suggesting my opinions towards m$ er, Microsoft are bias?

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No, the complete opposite.

sorry I worded that wrong.

TchuBacha, are you suggesting my opinions towards m$ er, Microsoft are normally bias?

but yes, I was attempting a sarcastic comment. As normally I talk down about M, though i do give credit where do.

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Originally Posted by ulaoulao

sorry I worded that wrong.

TchuBacha, are you suggesting my opinions towards m$ er, Microsoft are normally bias?

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No Im saying that most people's opinions about microsoft are bias.

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Originally Posted by TchuBacha

No Im saying that most people's opinions about microsoft are bias.

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- could not agree with you more and XP does not deserver the credit it gets. Granted it had its issues... but its the plane train syndrome. People are afraid to fly because of the crashes .. well that is because you here about every one. and its how often?? Statistically its safer to fly then drive...

Same thing with linux / M$.. Linux is all super and support reliable, and XP is not. Well how many people try to hack linux? and how many people actually run it? Of course XP seems more crappy....Not that I'm against linux and pro M$. I just hate unfair comparisons. They both have there qualities, good and bad.

Sorry for the rant