Valkyrie Profile getting stuck

[halcyon]

Ive looked all over the place, but cant seem to find someone with the same problem. When i play valkyrie profile, at certain parts of the monologues (where the characters talk with voices), it gets stuck. Normally, the voice plays as the words appear. But sometimes the words appear, but no sound comes out. After that, nothing more happens. The screen just gets stuck with those words. The background music still plays and all.

The problem seems to relate to the framerate. If i remove the framerate limit and let it run as fast as it can, the problem occurs more often. If i limit it at 60, most of the problems are gone. Im using ePSXe 1.60, and have tried several different video plugins (such as P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver 1.1.16 and Pete's D3D 1.75) and even bioses. Ive used several different settings and have been able to get past many of the places where it gets stuck, but at the part just after when Valkyrie first meets Aragrim near the beginning, i cant seem to get past it.

Has anyone had this problem, or know of any fixes? The problem is occuring right at the beginning, so i can only play about an hour's worth of the game. =\ Thanks.

[montpics]

Could you mind tell us your PC specs?

AFAIK, I was playing the Valkyrie Profile (Japanese or English) and it works fine with this 2 plugins that I used.

Pete's OpenGL2
Eternal SPU

Make sure that you enable the XA and CDDA sound which is found on sound configuration. :cool:

[hagbard]

Enable SPU IRQ hack option, in either Peops or Eternal SPU

[montpics]

Enable SPU IRQ hack option, in either Peops or Eternal SPU
But mine works fine without enabling them. :confused:

You may try that if it helps.....

[hagbard]

If you read the Peops or Eternal SPU switches, you'll see SPU IRQ hack it's recommended for Valkyrie Profile and some others like MGS. I have VP NTSC-U, and the voices only work fine with SPU IRQ hack enabled, no matter if it's from real CD nor ISO. Maybe you're playing another version, but dunno if ohter versions are affected (NTSC-J, perhaps?)

[montpics]

Probably I forgot that one...... perhaps. (Amnesia? :p Since I'm getting forgeting important things easily.) Need to double check mine.

[halcyon]

oh, i doubt its a sound problem, since most of the time, the voice actually does play. It only gets stuck on a few specific parts. I thought it is a framerate problem, because if i change the framerate, other voices stop playing.

Anyway, here's my system specs:
processor: Pentium M
ram: 640 MB
graphics: Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller
audio: SigmaTel C-Major Audio

Anything else i need to list? Thanks.

[hagbard]

CPU speed, please ;)

Nah, probably your PC it's far enough to run ePSXe, but I'm not sure if your Gfx card (integrated) might have problems with some settings on OGL or D3D.
Are you playing from a real CD or an ISO? If it's real CD, I'd switch to Peops CDr plugin, then "autodetect" & "cpuasync" should help, also "Enable Accurate CD-ROM Timing". Otherwise, try to make an ISO either directly loaded or emulated through Daemon Tools, I like the last one as some games might not play correcctly from an ISO. GL :)

[halcyon]

Im running it on a ISO. I tried mounting it with daemon tools, but its still getting stuck. When i try to use the peops cd plugin, epsxe crashes when i do autodetect. Would the epsxe version matter? Im going to give it a try with 1.5.2.

[halcyon]

meh, 1.5.2 isnt working either.

[montpics]

Use SaPu CD plugin with no problem. (My first choice!) ;)

[Leerz]

:p happnd to me too :P
im playing from an iso

it gets stuck in that screen
(where the screen is black and the msgs are all there) ;)
:(
*music still plays and buttons are still working*
just cant get out of that black screen with text:confused:
(even if you push all buttons) :msn_pisse

[halcyon]

:p happnd to me too :P

Happened? So did you find a solution? Mine still gets stuck. =\

Funny thing is that when i played valk profile a year ago on the same computer, it worked almost completely fine. It wasnt until midway through the game that the first problem came up. But now, it happens before i even hit the first dungeon. =\

[bone]

Hi, I'm writing from Japan.
I've got a same problem as you.
I tried everything written here and
so as other places written in language I can read.
It's frustrating to be stuck in such a begining of the game, don't you think?

[hagbard]

I suppose you tried enable SPU IRQ hack, pEOps CDr Plugin, etc.
Are you playing from the original CD? I'd try to play from an ISO
And I'd try ePSXe version 1.5.2 (latest it's 1.6.0). Otherwise, PSXeven and SSSPSX are great emus to worth trying ;)

[montpics]

Hi, I'm writing from Japan.
I've got a same problem as you.
I tried everything written here and
so as other places written in language I can read.
It's frustrating to be stuck in such a begining of the game, don't you think?
Could you specify which emulator and plugins you'd use? I personally play the game with ePSXe and PSXeven, and both emulators works fine.

Plugins I'd use :
Pete's OpenGL 2.6
Eternal SPU (you must click on Valkyrie Profile fixes)
SaPu CD plugin

Anything else? Please post here. ;)

[hagbard]

Give a try to SSSPSX (http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~bz7t-skmt/), works great as long you don't change the default input & CDr plugins and use an ISO (cue-bin, ccd-img or iso format)

[Leerz]

Happened? So did you find a solution? Mine still gets stuck. =\


uhh no :o

Plugins Used
Petes OpenGL 1.7 (OMG its Version 2.6 alredy? :msn_pisse silly me!)
Eternal SPU Plugin (yes with the fixes)
SaPu's CD-ROM Plugin 1.0
at ePSXe 1.6.0 :o

[montpics]

Petes OpenGL 1.7 (OMG its Version 2.6 alredy? :msn_pisse silly me!)

That's the usual plugins that best for very decent graphic cards (Not too old and not too new). The one I mentioned is the latest that suits best for any latest graphic cards. :cool:

[Surtur]

can I post some problems here too? I'm stuck at this screen

http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/8104/screen1if.png

what do I have to do to go on?

[hagbard]

This looks to be PSXeven, so it might an emulator bug. Perhaps ePSXe 1.5.2 , or other GPU plugin works better: Peops soft GPU should work. Also would be god to know about the plugins you're using

[Surtur]

hmmm sorry doesn't work either, even with ePSXe 1.5.2 or higher version or the Plug-Ins you recommended.

Is there any way to get some kind of pre-set emulator?

[hagbard]

Pete's D3D % OGL GPU plugins offer a "Copy settings to clipboard", so I paste here what I often use.



Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.76
Author: Pete Bernert
GFX card: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT

Resolution/Color:
- 1024x768 Fullscreen - [32 Bit]

Textures:
- R8G8A8A8
- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 0
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limit: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 3
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Framebuffer access: 0
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: on
- Advanced blending: hardware

Misc:
- Scanlines: off [0]
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Full vram: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]


SPU: Eternal default , SPUasync

CDr: PEopS default , ASPI , Auto detect , Caching: Async Read

Tomorrow I'll try deeply Valkyrie Profile.

[montpics]

Weird, as I never had that kind of that problem with ePSXe 1.6.0 on that game (both version, Japanese and English).

What did you do before that screen showed up?

[Surtur]

well I used ISO-Buster to get the ISO files from my Download, I loaded all the plug-ins, that were recommended here. startet the ePSXe and used the Wizard Guide.

Then I chose run ISO.

The game started , as is well so far.

In the game's first menu screen I choose: New Game --> difficulty : Normal

the the "Retry" symbol appears.

[montpics]

Try to mount it with Daemon-Tools. I doubt it had something to do with 'CD reading failure'.

[Surtur]

I just don't get it, it still doesn't work... Am I too dumb?

[hagbard]

I'd delete the whole registry entries of ePSXe, with regedit. It's documented on the help file

[montpics]

I'd delete the whole registry entries of ePSXe, with regedit. It's documented on the help file
I don't think it had something to do with the registry but the CD or CD image itself failed...... :rolleyes:

Hmmm, BIOS' faulty maybe?

[hagbard]

Maybe, imho it's also good to check another BIOS although ePSXe authors talk about an emulation bug more than that. Anyway, SCPH-1001 and SCPH-7502 are the most recommend because have been mainly tested. Since some people is having the same problem looks to me an emulator/plugin problem though (they might got the mame image dump but who knows)

[Sephiroth56]

This actually happens to me quite a bit... Most frustrating has been Aelia, Lorenta (or was it Mystina)... and right now I'm getting stuck with Lucian.
Annoying, but I've gotten through.

[Pinioto]

Does anyone know what to do when the monologue (text with voices) doesn't finish the sentence. it is really anoying. The game is valkyrie profile. SOMEBODY HELP!!!!!
:( :( :( :(

[shijoku]

I think I found the problem. It's save states. I'd been using save states the whole time, and I read that on another forum. So I saved the game on the "memory card", reset, and reloaded the data from the memory card and it worked the first time.

I use Pete's OpenGL Drive 1.76
Eternal SPU Plugin 1.41 with both SPU IRQ's enabled for Valkyrie Profile, and the reverb off - otherwise default settings.
SaPu's CD-Rom Plugin 1.0

[montpics]

I think I found the problem. It's save states. I'd been using save states the whole time, and I read that on another forum. So I saved the game on the "memory card", reset, and reloaded the data from the memory card and it worked the first time.

I use Pete's OpenGL Drive 1.76
Eternal SPU Plugin 1.41 with both SPU IRQ's enabled for Valkyrie Profile, and the reverb off - otherwise default settings.
SaPu's CD-Rom Plugin 1.0
That's not a real problem as mine runs fine with that kind of method (save states).

But it could be wiseable that you saved the game in 'Memory Card' as well. (Highly recommended. Who knows when your save states doesn't work at all.) ;)

[DarkSide]

Hum this thread is old but i was not feeling like make a whole new thread about the same subject...anyway, im having the same problem, but just one thing i think strange about this emulator, on my computer the graphics are horrible, plus the sound all bad..im sure yall will say its my computer...but how come ``emurayden`` run all my cds at full speed, graphics EVERYTHING PERFECT???? i cant understand this emulator, in my opinion theres no other word to this emulator... ``piece of S**`` anyway, dude get emurayden and you can play valkirie profile at full speed, graphics and all. :happy:

[montpics]

Hum this thread is old but i was not feeling like make a whole new thread about the same subject...anyway, im having the same problem, but just one thing i think strange about this emulator, on my computer the graphics are horrible, plus the sound all bad..im sure yall will say its my computer...but how come ``emurayden`` run all my cds at full speed, graphics EVERYTHING PERFECT???? i cant understand this emulator, in my opinion theres no other word to this emulator... ``piece of S**`` anyway, dude get emurayden and you can play valkirie profile at full speed, graphics and all. :happy:
Then you should know that once you're in the world, the whole screen would be black and you can't see anything. Plus, [pec] is not supporting that emulator.

[DarkSide]

Then you should know that once you're in the world, the whole screen would be black and you can't see anything. Plus, [pec] is not supporting that emulator.

No no my friend, theres no black screen im telling you, the game run without any problem, in another hand this emulator stuck when argrim is talking about jelanda [after that part where argrim and bradack are on a three.] and he says that he wouldnt mind of kill bradach....if im not mistaken when i played on my playstation that part of the game had some kind of a song...but on this emulator theres nothing and the screen freeze on that part...oh by the way the ``japanese`` cd is the one i have, and it doesnt stuck on the world scene. ;) but if you guys know how to solve this problem on the psxe. :)

[montpics]

Actually I DID try with both versions (English & Japan) using emurayden and still gave me the same result. Unless, that emulator had been updated.

[DarkSide]

Oh about this i dont know...but i just cant play valkyrie profile on epsxe, do you know how to solve this? its exactly on that part where argrim says ``I'd would have been quite happy to kill that stinky knave...`` then the sound is cut and it freeze...do you know why this is happening?

[DarkSide]

LOL if i was waiting for someone to help...anyway i solved he problem to not crash on that part the option ``audio out method`` must be the ''SPU async`` in case someone went in this problem, since is HARD get any help on this board..

[montpics]

LOL if i was waiting for someone to help...anyway i solved he problem to not crash on that part the option ``audio out method`` must be the ''SPU async`` in case someone went in this problem, since is HARD get any help on this board..
Problem solved, Darkside?

[DarkSide]

Problem solved, Darkside?

yes the 39 post...did you answered my question? :p its cool man sometimes we need to try for ourselves not everyday people feel like helping the others..you a mod on here dont you?

[montpics]

you a mod on here dont you?
Yes, I am. :cool:

[DarkSide]

Its cool man, i found the answer to my question just searching a little bit, but still epsxe has some bugs on this game, is hard make him perfect on VP. :excl:

[montpics]

Nothing is perfect, DarkSide. :)

[DarkSide]

Nothing is perfect, DarkSide. :)

haha oh man, i know nothing beats the original console. :D

[F0RSAKEN]

Hey Everyone i am still having the same problem just after they have found the princess and she has been turned into a demon..
i have tried what darkside said and it has not worked for me
i have tried running it off the CD but no good there
If anyone could help i would be very grateful


And those who think nothing beats the original console? why the hell are u talking in an emulation forum... go away???
PS1 has not got netplay or maybe i am just missing something?
no save states no pad of your choice
and dont blame anyone because your still using a 19 inch LCD screen
you dont get memory cards in a 128kb file

[montpics]

Hey Everyone i am still having the same problem just after they have found the princess and she has been turned into a demon..
i have tried what darkside said and it has not worked for me
i have tried running it off the CD but no good there
If anyone could help i would be very grateful
What kind of problem exactly? The game itself jammed?


And those who think nothing beats the original console? why the hell are u talking in an emulation forum... go away???
I doubt that you'd missed the whole point. :glare:

PS1 has not got netplay or maybe i am just missing something?
There IS one but still not very good.

no save states no pad of your choice
and dont blame anyone because your still using a 19 inch LCD screen
you dont get memory cards in a 128kb file
Still don't understand.

[F0RSAKEN]

ok then i really do apologise i played the game over without saving state and it worked.

[DarkSide]

What kind of problem exactly? The game itself jammed?

If hes having the same problem as i had, its when argrim says ``i would be quite happy to kill that stinky naive...[then after this part the sound cut anf it frezze]..but i have more important things to do`` im not sure if its this the line i dont remember well at the moment. i solve this problem checking the option ``spu async`` on the configuration of the sound plugin.

[ubr]

Does anybody played until the end?
Uh, i just wanna add something from my experience:).

Last year i played using epsxe and it fine. On chapter 8/9 (forgot which one...) i meet a boss and the game freeze on conversation. I convert memcard file and continue fight it on vgs/bleem (forgot again...), save, then i convert it back to epsxe memcard type. continue it on epsxe til the last boss.

Is this problem still around?, just in case if i want to play VP again:).

[montpics]

Does anybody played until the end?
Uh, i just wanna add something from my experience:).

Yes, using ePSXe 1.6.0 without a major problem. Minor problem is just pec sometimes cause the game freeze. :)

[Gas.Firefly]

Hello, I know this thread is old, but I believe it more efficient and time saving to bring up an old thread than to make a new one.

I am just beginning to play this game, and have just made it to the part where you leave in a Caravan with another guy (can't remember his name) for a job given to you by "Agent". As you're walking, there's some short dialog and you are informed that you are being followed by Knights.

A monologue proceeds (where the black screen appears and the text rolls across as he speaks). He says "The dust looked to have been kicked up by a group of Artolian Cavalry." and attempts to say "It seemed like they were chasing something, but". Well, it says the first thing, the entire thing, then the dreaded "No sound freeze" happens, and the second part of the monologue doesn't play. As usual, the music stayed around, but Arngrim didn't speak, and game refuses to move forward.

Specifics

I am running ePSXe 1.6 with the the SCPH1001 BIOS. I am running Valkyrie Profile from an ISO (the discs used to rip the ISO were seemingly spotless, and I have tested this scene on the PS1 and it isn't the disc.) I ripped it using ISOBuster. I also tried using Daemon Tools. Problems persist with both methods.

Video: Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.8

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.8
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Window mode
- Internal X resolution: 1
- Internal Y resolution: 1
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off
- No render-to-texture: off

- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 1
- TexWin pixel shader: off
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: off
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 1
- Framebuffer effects: 3
- Framebuffer uploads: 1

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Mdec filter: on
- Screen filtering: on
- Shader effects: 0/1
- Flicker-fix border size: 0
- GF4/XP crash fix: on
- Game fixes: on [00000000]



Sound: Eternal SPU Plugin 1.41

Screen Shot: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/10/9/275918/ss1.jpg

NOTE: It seems that every time I reset ePSXe it turns off the SPU IRQ hack, but I've made sure to turn it on when testing this particular scene.

System Specs

System: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/10/9/275918/ss2.jpg

Video: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/10/9/275918/ss3.jpg

Sound: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/10/9/275918/ss4.jpg

Anyone know of any solutions?

[montpics]

The question goes as whether ePSXe can fully compatible with Window Vista as the emulator was released BEFORE Window Vista. The configration seemed fine.

Unfortunately, I don't have Window Vista in which I can't help much with it. (I currently using WinXP) Unless someone has a better solution with it.

Note : You may try it out with the latest beta of Eternal SPU which can be found here.

>CLICK HERE!< (http://www.ngemu.com/index.php?action=post&id=1916)

[shing0]

Seems this old gem still gets played once in a while. So for the sake of those who run into this "Freeze" problem and search the net for a solution, let me post what worked for me: Do not use asynchronous SPU.

Long explanation of (what I think) is the problem that causes the freeze:

As you may have noticed, the freeze only happens during those spoken monologues (or scenes alike to those). The programmers used a smart way of determining when to progress to the next scene: They waited for the sound file of the spoken lines to end playing. Now, on a genuine PS Hardware, that's not a problem since CPU and SPU work in sync automatically, they're not affected by emulation delays... now we got emulation and things suffer delays. What happens is that the SPU stutters and jumps and most likely "misses" the point where it has to inform the CPU that it finished playing it's soundfile and that the CPU has to continue loading.

My personal "freeze favourite" was the scene where Arngrim said he would rather kill that knave. It seems that there were actually two seperate soundfiles to be played... that "I got better things to do" one never got to play in async, hence it never ended, hence the scene never progressed.


I'm using Eternal SPU, turning Audio Out Method to Thread solved the freeze problem (and made the playback stuttery like hell:)

Hope that helps some people here. Note: It won't help if you savestate at the frozen screen and reload there, that train is already gone, you have to load a savestate before the freezehappy part finished. I usually simply smashed my savestate the moment one of these spoken dialogues or monologues started playing.

[Dhaikirai]

Getting stuck at "Aelia" should be known here o_O
Can do what i want, won't work. Just sux..

Using XP, Hardware is enough.. Played Bioshock etc.

Getting nuts from the fucking shit. Played these "Aelia" Scene again and again.. drives me crazy...

using Pete's DX6 D3D Driver 1.75( others will work, but this is just fine, played the whole game with it)
ePSXe SPU core 1.5.2. worked fine, just at the end of a sentence you wont hear the rest.. but i never had it better..
i tried sound plugins here posted.. and even settings, but it stucks at 2 points of "Aelia" i only can proceed to the second problem...

What the hell should and can i do?
There must be the possibility to solve that piece of crap

Ah. i using deamon tools..and Pete's CDR ASPI/IOCTL Driver 1.9(was using other before worked fine too.)

maybe there is a way to solve it.. o_O just want to play further...


Edit: Its crap, i know.. but i solved it o_O
it only works if i load from memory.. but have to reboot the emulator then press continue ... load the fucking state get the fucking scene and go fucking further.. ^^ wasted 3 hours though.

[Lexx]

Try to use "pSX" emulator, not ePSXe. It has his own plug-ins and works properly for this game.

[charlel]

While attempting to transfer Lucian to get Ending A im getting stuck with Lenneth floating with period countdown after transfering Lucian not matter how many times i tried i can't get out while pressing the buttons, I'm using the psx v1.13 emulator.