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Genome
April 18th, 2005, 15:31
i had hear rumor that there was a long lost sonic the hedgehog game. then i stumbled across this game called sonic crackers. unfortunatly the article mentioning it was in italian and i cant speak much italian. i just sorta forgot about it then i found it again this time in a russian article wich...i cant speak. i did pick out of the italian one was something about it being an unreleased by sega sonic the hedgehog game. anyone know anything about it?

alcoatjez
April 18th, 2005, 15:37
i had hear rumor that there was a long lost sonic the hedgehog game. then i stumbled across this game called sonic crackers. unfortunatly the article mentioning it was in italian and i cant speak much italian. i just sorta forgot about it then i found it again this time in a russian article wich...i cant speak. i did pick out of the italian one was something about it being an unreleased by sega sonic the hedgehog game. anyone know anything about it?

Check out this link (http://www.genesiscollective.com/ShowPage.php?GameLink=1390) for all the info you need :)

Genome
April 18th, 2005, 16:11
thanx that clears things up!

alcoatjez
April 18th, 2005, 19:56
thanx that clears things up!

It should! :D Genesis Collective is the best site there is with regard to Genesis information!

hagbard
April 18th, 2005, 20:37
The goodgen 2.05 name it's "Sonic and Crackers (Beta)" (What a surprise)

True its a great site. You might like too the Genesis Collective Offline (http://www.genesiscollective.com/download.php) database, which it's full compilation of the site's info in windows chm help format. The most interesting it's you can load it in Gens, just got to Options -> Bios/Misc Files and insert GCO's path. Now start a Genesis rom, then hit <F1> to browse the info about that game / series

the_ghost
April 18th, 2005, 22:13
i had hear rumor that there was a long lost sonic the hedgehog game. then i stumbled across this game called sonic crackers. unfortunatly the article mentioning it was in italian and i cant speak much italian. i just sorta forgot about it then i found it again this time in a russian article wich...i cant speak. i did pick out of the italian one was something about it being an unreleased by sega sonic the hedgehog game. anyone know anything about it?

I found that game too an was wondering what the hell it was
i mean a sonic game with only playable stages!
i thought it was ridiculus

but then again i didnt know it was a beta

my copy doesnt play the soundfx it only plays the music
do any of you guys have the same problem?

hagbard
April 18th, 2005, 23:37
Same here, I tried on Gens & Kega Fusion, so it looks sound fx it's actually missing

the_ghost
April 18th, 2005, 23:53
Same here, I tried on Gens & Kega Fusion, so it looks sound fx it's actually missing

yeah i kinda figured that they didnt even bother
to make the soundfx because it was just an experiment (beta) game

Genome
April 19th, 2005, 14:41
at least it helped me find one sonic game i needed. Knuckles Chaotics. that is a must have even though its not the game ive been searching for all these years :verysad: kinda wonder how a sonic team beta game got emulated and put out on the mainstream though :confused:

btw haggy thanx for the link!

the_ghost
April 20th, 2005, 04:59
kinda wonder how a sonic team beta game got emulated and put out on the mainstream though :confused
read this article it says that a piece of code was leaked out that was believed to be a lost sonic game

http://img253.echo.cx/img253/4536/soniccrackersandsonicadventure.jpg

wsounitepirate895
June 12th, 2005, 12:47
I've ran this game before, It looks like Sonic 2 for some reason and its missing sprites. The picture on that link, show what Sega's 32x game Knuckles Chaotix ended up having implemented. There more stuff on the early sonic games too, like the Sonic3 has a few hidden lv that arent playable but show up on a list when a cheat is entered for level select. I guess sega was slow getting the games ready on time and something like Crackers could never be made public on time.

the_ghost
June 12th, 2005, 17:38
its missing more than just som spites its missing alot sprites a some physics, if I remember correctly sonic was able to walk on the cieling in that game.
and also the alot of unused/missing sprites and backgrounds are still on the rom
but they never used them in the beta

missing sprites
http://img274.echo.cx/img274/7337/sonic1ir.png http://img274.echo.cx/img274/3667/tails6df.png
a few missing tiles (backgrounds) ( there are 30 tiles in each stage missing from the beta )
http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/machine3B.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/machine0F.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/machineA1.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/machine78.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/lev2/carnivalD9.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/lev2/carnivalBB.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/lev2/carnival97.png http://sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_crackers/losttiles/lev2/carnival38.png

TchuBacha
June 12th, 2005, 18:14
Has anyone played sonic2beta and early attempt at sonic the hedgehog 2. It has loads of levels that werent in the finished game. Its got sprites and stuff missing in it aswell.

DrAkeNgaRd_KneLL
June 13th, 2005, 00:13
how do you all know that? tell me... :D

the_ghost
June 13th, 2005, 15:16
Has anyone played sonic2beta and early attempt at sonic the hedgehog 2. It has loads of levels that werent in the finished game. Its got sprites and stuff missing in it aswell.
hmm... I gotta look for that one ^

wsounitepirate895
June 13th, 2005, 19:47
Check in this thread someone posted the site already with all the info, you could also try these sites for info on all sonic games...
http://www.sonichq.org/games/neverwas/
http://www.sonicstadium.org/games/index.php

305soldier
June 14th, 2005, 02:05
sonic crackers look like a wierd beta for knuckles choatix :p

the_ghost
June 14th, 2005, 11:18
gee shit that fuc*ing beta is hard to find
but good things come to those who wait
so im pacient

never mind I had it all along
it was the "beta" Set of my genesis roms
I shouldve checked there from the begining

TchuBacha
June 15th, 2005, 14:22
Here is a couple of screenshots showing the differences between sonic2beta and the final version sonic the hedgehog 2.

Goto http://www.japan-101.com/video_games/sonic_the_hedgehog_2.htm for more information about SONIC2BETA.


http://www.geocities.com/jamesmufc2005/S2BandSTH2comparison.JPG

yugiohmaster
June 19th, 2005, 01:54
hey I found a website that has two versions of sonic crackers

the_ghost
June 19th, 2005, 04:53
another version?
whats the difference?

yugiohmaster
June 21st, 2005, 03:11
don't know

jv9
June 22nd, 2005, 16:08
I think there are 4 versions..