help with bsnes/higan

[guru8bit]

The only problem I'm noticing is that I can't quickload games from a .bat file that then I need to convert to an exe, which is the only thing that Steam can add to shortcuts. Also, it seems like when I try to load something, the emulator just isn't seeing my .sfc files. Maybe the first problem is connected to this one, but I really don't know.

Is there something special I need to do to make it see my roms?

[ulaoulao]

Do you need the bat, the emulator is command ready. bsnes c:/myfolder/smetroid.scm.

"Is there something special I need to do to make it see my roms? " Oh... yeah,, crap its been a long time. Let me find the answer for you.

[guru8bit]

Well, it needs to be in an exe, if that command works for that too I guess it would be okay too.
Do I need a BIOS maybe?

[ulaoulao]

First you may need to register to see my posts.

go here to get registered.
http://board.byuu.org

and you need a tun of bios files to even run anything, this post will help know where to put them.
http://board.byuu.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4247&p=95284#p95284

I'm trying to remember what I had to do to see all the roms. It may come back to me.

[guru8bit]

I'm not sure I understand this. Do I need to use Higan or bsnes? Because Higan runs fine without any other files, but I can't figure out a launch command to make it open with a game already loaded in it.

Nevermind, just found out that Higan is bsnes' final name. Though still nothing on the quickload side.

[ulaoulao]

I'm not following you, sorry. I have never used steam, I do everything from a front end so maybe this is why I cant follow you. Can you re explain the problem another way perhaps?

" a game already loaded in it"<- dont follow that at all?

[guru8bit]

Sorry, I'm not english and from time to time I just mess up entire sentences.
Basically, when I was using snes9x, I used a file that when executed, started snes9x and the game I wanted to play. And this is the only way I can launch the emulator with a game from steam, since Steam only reads exe files (i used a program to convert my bat file to an exe).

Higan runs fine, but I can't do the thing I described above anymore, the only way I have to launch a file from the emulator is to select it from a list that pops up everytime I open the program. What I need is a way to either use a line of code that executes Higan and then directly loads a game in it without me choosing one or a way to start the emulator with the game I selected when I clicked an .sfc file.

Right now I've tried setting Higan as the default program to open my SNES roms, but when I click on an .sfc file, only the emulator opens up and I need to load a game in it myself.

This is what the bat file (or exe) looked like when I used snes9x:

@echo off
start "C:/snes/snes9x.exe" "C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/Super Mario World (USA).sfc"

And it worked. But with Higan, nothing happens.

[ulaoulao]

This is what I'm saying. Higan will run from a command. I dont know if you can specify a string or not? If you can here is the string

"C:/higan/higan-accuracy.exe C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/Super Mario World (USA).sfc"

if you need a bat just do the same thing

@echo off
start "C:/higan/higan-accuracy.exe C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/Super Mario World (USA).sfc"

I know it works I'm doing it right now.

BTW: why are your slashes the wrong way? / vs \ ?, and why double ""s ?
"c:\folder\emulator.exe c:\folder\game.sfc"

TIP: maybe its the long files name. some emulators will not work with long files names and need the short 8:3 naming. Let me know if you need help here.

[guru8bit]

I'm trying it now and for me it's not working.
If I put everything under only one "" nothing happens, if I put the two files in two different "" at least the emulator starts.

I believe the slashes work either way you put them.


I think there's something wrong with the .bat code, but I just can't figure it out...


EDIT: Can't make it work from CMD. But that's probably because I have no idea what I'm doing with that.

[guru8bit]

I can only get a response from the emulator with this syntax:
@echo off
start "C:/higan/higan.exe" "C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/smw.sfc"

the problems is the same as before, emulator starts, but with no game.

And the shorter names are not helping.

[ulaoulao]

Oh,, thats it!, I remember now. I know its stupid.... but its the only way it works. All the rom files (bios) have to be in the same folder as your roms.

[guru8bit]

The .sys folders? It's still not working.

http://puu.sh/6Rpr1.png

It's not that the games are not working, if i load them separately they play just fine, it's the part where I try to cut the manual game loading that is not going as it should be.
Also, if I move the .sys folders, the games don't start up even if I load them manually.

[ulaoulao]

No just the rom files. I'll take a screen shot for you.

This is the folder my roms ( games ) are in, even though they dont show up. What you see in this folder are all the bios files for higan. You need then all in there.

( NOTE TO ALL: I can supply you the roms, you have to find them yourself )
( ADMINs, afaik mentioning the name of a rom is ok, as long as I dont post a link back? )
http://bliss-box.net/DoCz/down_m/temp/higan.JPG

[guru8bit]

Pic's not working D:

[Lefteris_D]

( ADMINs, afaik mentioning the name of a rom is ok, as long as I dont post a link back? )

Yes it'a fine but I would be more worried about that picture you posted not loading.

[ulaoulao]

should be fixed now.

[guru8bit]

I'm not really getting what I should use those roms for. As I said, the games not appearing in the list had been solved when I downloaded Higan from the official page.
The games work if I load them manually, my only problem is that I can't open the emulator with a started game in it. Every time I open the emulator I need to select the game I want to play, I just want to cut that and just make shortcuts for every game.

Also, I just can't find those files because since they're not used in the current version, all the pages where you could download them are not available anymore.

[ulaoulao]

Thats ok, I know this is hard to understand at first. And its not you, and not me, its higan. They just do weird things.

First let me just say this.
------------------
The normal ways

c:\emulator emulator goes here
c:\emulator\bios bios goes here
d:\roms games here

higan way

c:\emulator emulator goes here
d:\roms bios goes here
d:\roms games here

That screen shot I took is all the bios files you need to use higan. You need to put all of that in the same folder you have your snes games in.
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Now if you run a command like I said above, ( c:\....emulator c:\...game ) it will do nothing if you don't have it set up like I just mentioned.

Again, all I do in my set up is run a command. The emulator comes up and the game starts. No selecting of games is needed. If you follow me, and understand what I said, it will work. I will not give up trying to help you and relies its sometimes hard to figure this stuff out.

You said create a short cut? Please be more specific. Do you mean a bat file for each game, because a short cut may not work right.

[guru8bit]

Okay, now I have my emulator in C:/snes and my roms in C:/roms.
In my roms folder I have every bios I need.

Now, I need a way to create a Bat to launch the emulator and the game at the same time.

this:

start "C:/higan/higan.exe C:/roms/smw.sfc"

is not working, and:

start "C:/higan/higan.exe" "C:/roms/smw.sfc"

is not working either.

A .bat is the only way I can do this.


(not sure if changing HDD as you did in the post before is essential, at the moment I only have C: in my pc)
Edit: (tried putting roms in D:/roms. Not working.)


Edit2:I tried doing it with Bsnes 0.91 that I downloaded from http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/snes/bsnes.html
With this version, even if i have a /bios folder inside my emulator folder and all the bios are in there, I still can't see the game when I go to "Load". Not sure why, I'm pretty sure I did everything right.

Edit3: Also tried bsnes 32bit, just to be sure. Same thing.

[ulaoulao]

ok, lets do this... Please dont take this insulting its for my understanding.

Do a directory listing on C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/
If its more the 100 files, then sort by intention and show me the first page of files.

also ( assuming this is xp or win7 ) go to the run prompt and put in exactly quotes only where put them.
C:/higan/higan.exe "C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/smw.sfc"

if that fails try this.

run the command prompt ( cmd )
at the prompt do a
cd C:/higan/
then do a
higan "C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/smw.sfc"

Tell me if that works?

[guru8bit]

ok, lets do this... Please dont take this insulting its for my understanding.

Do a directory listing on C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/
If its more the 100 files, then sort by intention and show me the first page of files.

I moved the rom folder to C:/roms, but there are no more than 10 files.



also ( assuming this is xp or win7 ) go to the run prompt and put in exactly ( no quotes ).
C:/higan/higan.exe C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/smw.sfc

if that fails try this.

run the command prompt ( cmd )
at the prompt do a
cd C:/higan/
then do a
higan C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/smw.sfc

Tell me if that works?

Bot of these only launch the emulator. Yes, I changed "C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/snes/smw.sfc" to my rom folder.

[ulaoulao]

I moved the rom folder to C:/roms, but there are no more than 10 files. ok you missed a step. Did you get my pm? Extract that in to the folder. and try
C:/higan/higan.exe c:/roms/smw.sfc
again

[guru8bit]

Sorry, I forgot I had moved them to another bsnes folder.
Moved everything in /roms. I type the command. Emulator comes up but with no game.

[ulaoulao]

what version does higan say it is?

[guru8bit]

what version does higan say it is?

v094

[ulaoulao]

Its possible there is a bug in 94, I have 093. I'll try and test that for you.

[guru8bit]

Its possible there is a bug in 94, I have 093. I'll try and test that for you.

Shit! It works with 093.
I love you.

[ulaoulao]

No thank you, you saved me having to test that, I now can report that bug ;)

[guru8bit]

But looks like controller inputs are not working...
Might be my controller, even if they worked in 094.

Nope, it's just not getting any of the inputs. Not even from the keyboard.

[ulaoulao]

yeah that's quirky 093 works with my HID controllers ok. What controller do you have. Maybe the allow input check box is buggy?

[guru8bit]

I'm using a PS3 controller masked as an Xbox controller, so I can use it on Steam. But the emulator is not even receiving inputs from my keyboard, I don't think it's the controller.

Tried v092, same problem with that one too.

I guess I'll have to wait until v095, lol.

[ulaoulao]

no, I think 94 will be updated soon. They are good about that. Maybe be 0941 I dont know. But your issue with the controller/keyboard is not a problem with a normal computer setup or I would have the same issue on 93 and I dont;) Fortunately you said 94 works, so whatever is up they fixed in 94. Now you just need this command issue resolved. I'll keep you posted.

[guru8bit]

Thanks for all the help :3

[guru8bit]

I'm starting to think that these two problems are connected. In v093r11 you can't input from controller, but you can run the emulator with a game. In v093r12, you can change inputs, but the quickload is gone.
Weird.

[ulaoulao]

Well I talked to the author. In 94 he changed the interface. Command lines will only open higan and go to the right game type tab. He expects the user to run the game. No, I dont agree with that, yes its stupid, ok maybe even a bit retarded but its BYUU he does what he wants and cares not of anyone. Its just who he is... So 93 will be the last version to ever work via command line.

So I guess we need to figure out your controller issues, that I can prolly help you with as its my line of work. I'll have to get back to you.

in the mean time, I'm asking for a way to use 94 command line with some special script file or script language. Heres hopping...

[guru8bit]

Heh, it's a pity, with that perfect emulation it would have been perfect to use on steam to fully simulate playing a SNES.
Now I'm trying to find the config file in 93r11, maybe I can edit it manually.

[ulaoulao]

the config for 94 should work on 93. Copy input.bml from 94 to 93.

[guru8bit]

In 093 the input.bls is not in the root folder. Where is it?

[ulaoulao]

it should be, maybe its not there because you didnt ever make it ; Just put it in and run.

[guru8bit]

Well, everything's there, but Higan is not taking any inputs. Not even from the keyboard.

http://puu.sh/6SjNK.png

EDIT: I... Don't know what I did, but I tried again with this http://www.emucr.com/2013/08/higan-v093.html and everything I need is working fine.
I'll just not question my luckyness and be okay with it, I guess.

[ulaoulao]

haha yeah, indeed.

[Ashoka]

Well, everything's there, but Higan is not taking any inputs. Not even from the keyboard.

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EDIT: I... Don't know what I did, but I tried again with this and everything I need is working fine.
I'll just not question my luckyness and be okay with it, I guess.

I know this is old

But I gotta say this worked for me as well

Was using a DS3 controller with SCP server on windows 7, bluetooth

Configuring the controller worked fine, took all the inputs and looked just fine. Loaded up the games and couldn't get start or any buttons to work

Found this thread, downloaded the older version. Bam working 100%

Even made an account i was so pleased

Edit - one i tried with first was higan_v102-windows from waht i think was the guys source site but not sure