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Lefteris_D
January 27th, 2005, 13:45
Microsoft's plans to clamp down on the way illegal copies of its flagship Windows operating system receive updates—including security patches—could have a major impact on the SOHO (small office, home office) market and increase the risk of malicious hacker attacks, experts warned Wednesday.

The warning follows an announcement out of Redmond, Wash., that the "Windows Genuine Advantage" anti-piracy initiative, hitherto voluntary, will be mandatory by midyear.
Full article: here (http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1755316,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594).

That's a BAD idea. So what if some users use pirated copies? Is it worth puting legal owners in danger by unpatched users that are vunrable to viruses?

montpics
January 27th, 2005, 13:51
Can I post here? :p

Good topic as it's been discussed on any forums since this news is given. At first, it is pretty funny as we really don't know who is legal and who is illegal owner as in the world, many people used different/same serials.

Pretty tough to make sure that particular person is using pirated version or not. Better think twice before you put everyone at risk especially the legal owners. :cool:

Jale
January 27th, 2005, 13:53
I agree with you. That Microsoft is thirsty of power! :glare:

RockY
January 27th, 2005, 15:02
I suppose they are desperate to control the piracy… but they can just low their software prices, that way most people would prefer to use original software than pirated ones.

Jale
January 27th, 2005, 15:11
I suppose they are desperate to control the piracy… but they can just low their software prices, that way most people would prefer to use an original copy than a pirated one.
I'm glad we think the same way, I totally agree with you. Lowering the software prices is a great chance for us. Say, a legal copy of Windows XP Pro is about 375 US$ worth in my country! :confused:

I admit it. The piracy here is out of control, guys. Almost 90% of the people here buys pirated music, software, etc... In my case I'm hybrid (both pirate and legal copies).

So, retaking the topic, that would be a great strategy.

Lefteris_D
January 27th, 2005, 16:57
The real problem is that right now there are millions of pc's infected by viruses because they are unpatched. Those same pc's spread the viruses even further.

Imagine now that the patches will be for legal users only. It's going to be insane out there.

Jale
January 27th, 2005, 17:07
The end of the world :confused:

RockY
January 27th, 2005, 17:22
Well people will start using any other good alternative to replace Windows. Another way is buying new computers with the Windows license.

Jale
January 27th, 2005, 17:24
Well people will start using any other good alternative to replace Windows. Another way is buying new computers with the Windows license.
Or switching to Linux...

Lefteris_D
January 28th, 2005, 12:01
Have you heard the latest joke? Warez sites will start distributing Microsoft updates :p

Jale
January 28th, 2005, 12:14
Really? That's a miracle! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/laughing/yelrotflmao.gif
So we don't have to worry about it.

Robert
January 28th, 2005, 15:16
As long as the warez updates are real updates and not some trojan in disguise. :shivers:

RockY
January 28th, 2005, 15:26
If that's the case, we'll never know until it's too late :)

Zach
January 28th, 2005, 17:51
Its about time they clamped down

And Small Business or SOHO users who are buying single liscense keys have no right to complain if they can't use them on multiple machines.

They should instead be lobbying Microsoft for a smaller SOHO liscense fee for their unique case.

LoGoS_dArK
January 28th, 2005, 19:04
As long as the warez updates are real updates and not some trojan in disguise. :shivers:

that is most likely to happen, trojans are the new scare for home computer owners, most of the new trojans are worst then any viruses that ive come across........if microsoft is really goin to clamp down like they are, then these warez sites arent goin to have the real thing, they we'll be bunk and loaded with
trojans and spyware, its a sad thing!! :(

montpics
January 29th, 2005, 12:08
We'll never know what would come next. Probably the viruses would be coming from the main company, Microsoft. :p

LoGoS_dArK
January 29th, 2005, 15:47
you no that a really good thought, that would be great for them, put out a shit load of virus, spyware, & trojans out into the commercial computers, to scare people into buying their new patch software, sounds like some great propaganda
on microsoft's part!! :msn_devil

froster1990
January 29th, 2005, 18:12
That and the fact that they constantly bug me to update... Why the heck would I need an auto translator in spanish? Are they just thinking up random stuff to give us?

I agree with Logos, Microsoft is probably making half the freaking viruses so we buy their new pewp.

Jale
January 29th, 2005, 22:16
I update Windows manually. I disabled auto-update, holy 5#!T!
That Microsoft is abussing of their power :mad:

Zach
January 30th, 2005, 00:05
I update Windows manually. I disabled auto-update, holy 5#!T!
That Microsoft is abussing of their power :mad:


....How exactly are they doing that in your case ?

Jale
January 30th, 2005, 00:54
....How exactly are they doing that in your case ?
Windows was asking me to update it everyday.

froster1990
January 30th, 2005, 02:53
They stopped for me once I sent an angry email!!! Actually I just blocked all access to there.

Jale
January 30th, 2005, 03:11
o_O??? Dude... turning off automatic updates is enough.

Robert
January 30th, 2005, 05:46
I feel that since Microsoft has made Windows by far the most-used OS, they have a moral obligation to keep all those machines working. With microsoft's typically American abuse of copyright laws, and it was them that invented software licences (another money-making scheme), they have placed themselves in a position of being responsible for the well-being of the world's computers - even the pirate ones.

Jale
January 30th, 2005, 06:09
It's time for a reformat. I'll be back soon :)

Jale
January 30th, 2005, 06:47
Done! I made it in no time :)

LoGoS_dArK
January 30th, 2005, 19:56
what do yuo mean by 'how do they do that??

Fable
January 31st, 2005, 07:17
yeah? I can still get free updates.

Lefteris_D
January 31st, 2005, 10:08
yeah? I can still get free updates.
I don't think you read the full article. Here:

The warning follows an announcement out of Redmond, Wash., that the "Windows Genuine Advantage" anti-piracy initiative, hitherto voluntary, will be mandatory by midyear.
You can download whatever you want for a few more months.

RockY
January 31st, 2005, 14:50
This is all marketing, unlicensed users will start experiencing deficiency with their products, just imagine a virus like Blaster how much damage could do with those computers…

Users will have just two choices. Getting a new license, or just forget about the internet.

DrAkeNgaRd_KneLL
January 31st, 2005, 17:32
lets start making some copy of those updates and turn them to .exe so that we can install them using a cd? :p :happy: :D :confused:

Jale
January 31st, 2005, 17:46
There will be a way to get those updates... As Lefteris said, we can get it through warez sites, but... It will come along with little pets.

What if Microsoft strategy fails?

Lefteris_D
January 31st, 2005, 18:08
lets start making some copy of those updates and turn them to .exe so that we can install them using a cd? :p :happy: :D :confused:
Already been done: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showforum=89

That too however will become illegal.

Jale
January 31st, 2005, 22:36
http://img11.exs.cx/img11/6228/nuevo33jy.jpg


:confused: Shit! they've already started with downloadable software. Of course it's just annoyance, software can be downloaded without validating...

Fable
February 1st, 2005, 01:20
lol I uhhh... have a semi-legal copy of windows??? lol

montpics
February 4th, 2005, 14:31
Nah, don't bother much about trying to updating from the main site. :)

DrAkeNgaRd_KneLL
February 8th, 2005, 09:48
we dont need updates... just but cds jejejejejeje :happy: :ninja:

Zach
February 8th, 2005, 22:32
I feel that since Microsoft has made Windows by far the most-used OS, they have a moral obligation to keep all those machines working. With microsoft's typically American abuse of copyright laws, and it was them that invented software licences (another money-making scheme), they have placed themselves in a position of being responsible for the well-being of the world's computers - even the pirate ones.


Moral obligation ?

mmmk
And just how are licenses' a 'scheme' ? You get what you pay for. Its your choice if you want to pay for it or not. The only obligation Microsoft has is to its PAYING customers.