Xbox emulation is possible

[DigitalRenegade]

Contrary to what the Xbox 360 Emulator! sticky says it is more then possible to emulate a Xbox 360. Hell I know coder friends who have already done just that. "The main unit of the Xbox 360 itself has slight double concavity in matte white or black. The official color of the white model is Arctic Chill. It features a port on the top when vertical (left side when horizontal) to which a custom-housed hard drive unit can be attached in sizes of either 20, 60, 120, 250, or 320 GB. Inside, the Xbox 360 uses the triple-core IBM designed Xenon as its CPU, with each core capable of simultaneously processing two threads, and can therefore operate on up to six threads at once.[27] Graphics processing is handled by the ATI Xenos, which has 10 MB of eDRAM. Its main memory pool is 512 MB in size." That's straight from the Xbox 360 wiki which is moderated by Microsoft. So let's see it uses a 3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon processor, I have a quad core processor. Done. It uses only 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700 MHz. I have 8 gb of DDR3 RAM. Done. It uses a 500 MHz ATI Xenos video card, I have a 1gb video card (don't feel like putting down what it is right now) that has run Skyrim better then a Xbox 360 possibly can with less lag. So I hope that sticky was a joke because if not then you are sorely mistaken. Oh also there are already PS3 emulators out there because the PS3 is around the same as the Xbox 360 so emulating that isn't a problem either.

[VintageTorrie]

1. You expect us to take the word of a new user's first post?

2. This site is focused on emulation, we would know if there was one available.

3. We know there are PS3 emulators, we have one on the site.

[CalinCool]

1. You expect us to take the word of a new user's first post?

2. This site is focused on emulation, we would know if there was one available.

3. We know there are PS3 emulators, we have one on the site.
There are no emulators but its possible to emulate a 360 when an emulator will be released ad if you have 3.2GHz and 512MB Ram.

Btw majority of 360 games were released with better graphics on pc.

[ScissorsForDays]

Bravo, DigitalRenegade. You have much better spelling and punctuation than most trolls.

[DigitalRenegade]

Actually not trolling. Those ARE the real specs of the Xbox 360. Just look it up. Also yes you need 3.2ghz tri-core processor OR a 2.8ghz quad core or better.

[VintageTorrie]

You would need to be emulating the console PLUS the game. That sounds simple but it isn't. There are very few documents on how it works, plus it is way to powerful to be emulated just now anyway.

[testmachine]

Actually not trolling. Those ARE the real specs of the Xbox 360. Just look it up. Also yes you need 3.2ghz tri-core processor OR a 2.8ghz quad core or better.

First of all:You are a idiot!
Second:If you expect Xbox360 emulators to appear in the next 2 years then you are a even bigger Idiot than i thought.

PS2 is far weaker than the xbox360 and emulation of it requires at least a DualCore processor.So if we would like to emulate the Xbox360 we would have to double our PC specs just to handle the console's OS.
And BTW the PS3 emulator can run only Homebrew (with poor results).
So don't be a smartass and expect us to believe you...

[VintageTorrie]

Plus with PS2 emulators, there are still glitches. It's highly unlikely that an Xbox 360 emulator would be finished before a PS2 emulator.

[CalinCool]

Wtf, some ppl says it not exist and some it exist! Im annoyed now! Just shut up and is your problem if you think that it exist or no!

[CalinCool]

Wtf, some ppl says it not exist and some says it exist! Im annoyed now! Just shut up and is your problem if you think that it exist or no!
This is not an war :D
oops sry i tried to edit post and i clicked "quote"

[ulaoulao]

You guys are a bunch of spam troll'n trash talkin junkies LOL. chall-cray!

DigitalRenegade, is right its very possible. Its just a set of CPU instruction that fly over a cable connecting the cup to various hardware.its not that it is not possible, its that the hardware to do it is not antiquity. no body ever said it was a logic or talent limitation, its just that we dont have the computer power to do it. Now that is for the HLE paradigm... If some one had the time to try LLE it may be possible on today's hardware. So get your fancy friends to step up to the plate and try it.

[Mupen64 Man]

Lol, LLE for XBOX 360 would take a decade for a dedicated team of programmers, if not more. :P

[CalinCool]

i overclocked my cpu (from bios) but im still fear do download the emu.

[sanscripter]

Uhh Guys... I know it might sound strange, but why, instead of emulating the console, we don't "emulate the games". I saw it happen once, with devil may cry 4 ( i guess); it was ported directly from the xbox, you couldn't even use the mouse and had all the graphic indicators of a xbox game (buttons on screen; playability expected to adopt analog...) so it was definitely not the PC Version (not even configured for xbox controller). Unfotunately i can't remember exactly where i got it, so, i'll take it that this may weaken my credebility. But i assume that, at some point, on very early beta, the game is playable on a computer for developing reasons. Then again, i'm not a programmer, but maybe we could exploit that too.

[VintageTorrie]

They've done that before with Project Diva, but I think it would be too much work, considering it will only affect one game, instead of the whole console's library.

[sanscripter]

Yeah, i figured that would be the case, but, emulation should be limited to games not available to PC under this circunstances. Such limitation would lower the number of the games considerably (even if they are still much).

[testmachine]

They've done that before with Project Diva, but I think it would be too much work, considering it will only affect one game, instead of the whole console's library.

You're right.It would be too much work.

[the disaster]

as i had also mentioned in another forum, xbox 360 emulator is simple shit. what it only does is put viruses on your computer. ive experienced it. its been nearly 6 months and i still cant get the virus off. And yes, there is NO such thing as an xbox 360 emulator.

[testmachine]

as i had also mentioned in another forum, xbox 360 emulator is simple shit. what it only does is put viruses on your computer. ive experienced it. its been nearly 6 months and i still cant get the virus off. And yes, there is NO such thing as an xbox 360 emulator.

It may be a Keylogger (It remembers your keystrokes and sends the information to the Hackers' adress).You should Reinstall your whole system!

[ulaoulao]

If anyone is dumb enough to think 360 or ps3 emulation is possible, they deserve a virus.

[testmachine]

If anyone is dumb enough to think 360 or ps3 emulation is possible, they deserve a virus.

Exactly!

[CalinCool]

If anyone is dumb enough to think 360 or ps3 emulation is possible, they deserve a virus.
RPCS3 makes 2% possible... 2%!

[jvwarrior]

The only reason I might slightly agree with this fellow, is because in the sticky it suggests that we dont have PC's capable of running it.. Which... is an obvious joke. Xbox games graphics are my PC's low settings. EDIT: I take that back, forgot about the actual process behind emulation.

But besides that, it shouldn't be impossible, just not yet attempted, without the proper documentation... And even then when it is possible, it won't be beautiful with our 5 fps.

Also, those xbox360emulator websites look incredibly sketchy its pretty ridiculous.

[CalinCool]

Can some1 close this up?

[Mupen64 Man]

Ill think about it, but its kinda fun. XD

[montpics]

Don't think that is very much necessary to close it up. Plus it's been a long time we haven't heard any news in Xbox emulation that lead people to wonder "Xbox emulation is possible!!!" thing and so on.


Ill think about it, but its kinda fun. XD

It's pretty much true. :D

[Socfuz]

Is this just a topic that got blown out of proportion cause the topic title needed a question mark? Could be. Anyway maybe one day Xbox emulators will be possible on some stronger computers with better graphics.

[CalinCool]

Is this just a topic that got blown out of proportion cause the topic title needed a question mark? Could be. Anyway maybe one day Xbox emulators will be possible on some stronger computers with better graphics.
Of course there will be for 360 and maybe in 2020 we will have a xbox 720 emulator.

[testmachine]

Of course there will be for 360 and maybe in 2020 we will have a xbox 720 emulator.

Maybe you're right calin.But maybe not!

[CalinCool]

Maybe you're right calin.But maybe not!
It's just my opinion.

[hardwiredd]

If anyone is dumb enough to think 360 or ps3 emulation is possible, they deserve a virus.

and you deserve a kick in the teeth you elitist jackoff. if anyone tried to do a little education on this site instead of flaming whenever you get this question then you wouldn't hear it as much. hell, I'm a moderately intelligent guy. I'm savvy enough to have hacked my own xbox and kept it up through several iterations of M$ assbaggery and I still had to look up what 'HLE' was. when I did figure it out on my own, it calmed my outrage a bit. I registered on this forum SPECIFICALLY to ask what the hell the problem was. "PC hardware has more than doubled the capabilities of the 360 and we're not powerful enough??? the damn thing has been out for 7 years. SOMEONE should have figured out how it works by now!" these are the things I wanted to point out. but now I know and I don't feel as disappointed with my fellow, more talented pirates.

for those of you NOT in the know. HLE, AKA High Level Emulation. is a method in which you completely simulate the workings of whatever machine your trying to copy on your host box. it means that not only does your machine have to deal with the processing load of running the game, it also has to deal with the load of reproducing exactly how your 360 would react while running said game. it essentially doubles? the work load needed to make anything run properly. and THAT is why current machines aren't powerful enough to run an emulator for the xbox 360. HLE has become almost a required emulation method as consoles have gotten more and more complex and powerful. by comparisy LLE or Low Level Emulation would be prohibitively complicated and require more effort than anyone really thinks is worthwhile.

if anyone is still watching this thread. I would like to request that this information be added to the sticky post, so that less people get smacked in the face with "it don't work dumbass. get over it!"

[testmachine]

hardwiredd.You amuse me.He was not flaming anyone.He is right.
If anyone is dumb enough to believe there is a genuine Xbox360 emulator they DESERVE a virus.How in the Hell should you even think that this should be stickied.Well that's not going to happen anytime soon. :P

[ScissorsForDays]

I don't think someone should deserve a virus for believing that Xbox 360 emulation is true. They may know absolutely nothing about emulators and see that first. I'm glad that people put up notices everywhere and flame those who put up scams, so that the new people will be protected. Imagine if the first emulator you downloaded had a virus. I don't think I'd ever emulate anything again.

[CalinCool]

and you deserve a kick in the teeth you elitist jackoff. if anyone tried to do a little education on this site instead of flaming whenever you get this question then you wouldn't hear it as much. hell, I'm a moderately intelligent guy. I'm savvy enough to have hacked my own xbox and kept it up through several iterations of M$ assbaggery and I still had to look up what 'HLE' was. when I did figure it out on my own, it calmed my outrage a bit. I registered on this forum SPECIFICALLY to ask what the hell the problem was. "PC hardware has more than doubled the capabilities of the 360 and we're not powerful enough??? the damn thing has been out for 7 years. SOMEONE should have figured out how it works by now!" these are the things I wanted to point out. but now I know and I don't feel as disappointed with my fellow, more talented pirates.

for those of you NOT in the know. HLE, AKA High Level Emulation. is a method in which you completely simulate the workings of whatever machine your trying to copy on your host box. it means that not only does your machine have to deal with the processing load of running the game, it also has to deal with the load of reproducing exactly how your 360 would react while running said game. it essentially doubles? the work load needed to make anything run properly. and THAT is why current machines aren't powerful enough to run an emulator for the xbox 360. HLE has become almost a required emulation method as consoles have gotten more and more complex and powerful. by comparisy LLE or Low Level Emulation would be prohibitively complicated and require more effort than anyone really thinks is worthwhile.

if anyone is still watching this thread. I would like to request that this information be added to the sticky post, so that less people get smacked in the face with "it don't work dumbass. get over it!"
u are insulting an moderator?

[Mupen64 Man]

Lol, this has definitely been the most amusing thread that has come up in a really long time! Haha, you guys are a riot! :)

[GHDpro]

While I don't think part of hardwiredd's response was very subtle, he does have a point.

Most people think that because their PC is better than a Xbox360 or PS3 and can run games at much higher resolution and graphic settings, that their PC should also be more than fast enough to emulate a Xbox 360 or PS3.

That emulation itself requires massive amounts of processing power is something most people have trouble understanding.

I've edited the sticky a bit to give my own views (and excerpt of hardwiredd's post).

[testmachine]

While I don't think part of hardwiredd's response was very subtle, he does have a point.

Most people think that because their PC is better than a Xbox360 or PS3 and can run games at much higher resolution and graphic settings, that their PC should also be more than fast enough to emulate a Xbox 360 or PS3.

That emulation itself requires massive amounts of processing power is something most people have trouble understanding.

I've edited the sticky a bit to give my own views (and excerpt of hardwiredd's post).

Thank you for editing the sticky.

[Kitsuni]

It just amazes me how all of you Microsoft fanboy's think that the 360 is so powerfull, or even more laughable that it has a stronger set of components then a ps3. Computers right now blow the consoles away and it's truely pathetic to see how many people believe nothing can surpass their favorite console. I have a mid-range gaming computer I built myself and I can guarantee you that if someone had the skills and enough free time to do it right they could (not easily mind you) make a working emulator for 360, ps3, Wii, WiiU, whatever they could get their hands on. I.E I can play Skyrim(modded with much higher graphics than either console could handle) and still have other applications running along side it such as music, firefox or even another game. So maybe you fanboy's need to stop being such and learn what the hell you're talking about. Games on consoles run at about <30fps and 720p and yes use a background OS but they CPU's used in consoles are not that great compared to whats available (and sometimes cheap) today. I understand casual gamers, casual computer enthusiasts, ect don't know much (about hardware/software limitation) or can afford a newer computer that's somewhat decent, but that doesn't excuse the ignorance of people who do know and just refuse to believe anything is greater then pieces of hardware that very up in age. And if you think the graphics are great, fine, but because of their limitations, we, the PC gamers have been held back because companies develop for console the port to PC. Which in turn makes the games less then what they could have been by a great deal. /finishrant

CPU - Intel i7-2700k (4cores-8threads)
MOBO - ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-z
GPU - ASUS GTX 570 Direct CUII (Nvidia Driver 306.97)
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 16gb(2x8gb)
SSD - Kingston HyperX-3K SATA3.0(6gb/s) 240gb
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black SATA3.0(6gb/s) 1.5tb

[CalinCool]

It just amazes me how all of you Microsoft fanboy's think that the 360 is so powerfull, or even more laughable that it has a stronger set of components then a ps3. Computers right now blow the consoles away and it's truely pathetic to see how many people believe nothing can surpass their favorite console. I have a mid-range gaming computer I built myself and I can guarantee you that if someone had the skills and enough free time to do it right they could (not easily mind you) make a working emulator for 360, ps3, Wii, WiiU, whatever they could get their hands on. I.E I can play Skyrim(modded with much higher graphics than either console could handle) and still have other applications running along side it such as music, firefox or even another game. So maybe you fanboy's need to stop being such and learn what the hell you're talking about. Games on consoles run at about <30fps and 720p and yes use a background OS but they CPU's used in consoles are not that great compared to whats available (and sometimes cheap) today. I understand casual gamers, casual computer enthusiasts, ect don't know much (about hardware/software limitation) or can afford a newer computer that's somewhat decent, but that doesn't excuse the ignorance of people who do know and just refuse to believe anything is greater then pieces of hardware that very up in age. And if you think the graphics are great, fine, but because of their limitations, we, the PC gamers have been held back because companies develop for console the port to PC. Which in turn makes the games less then what they could have been by a great deal. /finishrant

CPU - Intel i7-2700k (4cores-8threads)
MOBO - ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-z
GPU - ASUS GTX 570 Direct CUII (Nvidia Driver 306.97)
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 16gb(2x8gb)
SSD - Kingston HyperX-3K SATA3.0(6gb/s) 240gb
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black SATA3.0(6gb/s) 1.5tb
It just amazes me how people thinks that we can emulate 360 :)

[testmachine]

CPU -[/color] Intel i7-2700k (4cores-8threads)
MOBO - ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-z
GPU - ASUS GTX 570 Direct CUII (Nvidia Driver 306.97)
RAM - Corsair Vengeance 16gb(2x8gb)
SSD - Kingston HyperX-3K SATA3.0(6gb/s) 240gb
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Black SATA3.0(6gb/s) 1.5tb

That's a pretty good computer you got there.Mine is a little bit weaker.
And yes,some people think consoles surpass computers with their hardware.
In fact the Xbox360 has a weaker processor than the intel core i3,and the PS3 processor is maybe stronger,because it's another technology.
The Xbox360 is actually a custom built computer.then massively produced by microsoft.So that should be a problem to emulate!

[equazcion]

It seems to me that the real thing being emulated is the console's operating system. They should work on porting the OS itself so we can dual-boot it with our PCs, thereby eliminating the extraordinary processing requirements. Maybe there's some unique BIOS stuff that will still need to be emulated, but that should be small beans.

Has anyone tried this?

[Chimera]

Now, i'm a HUGE 'n00b' to coding (im barly past hello world.....), but at its core, the 360 is just a computer, that CAN read files in FAT32 (and possibly other) formats. So it seems (and correct me if i'm wrong here) that the .xbe file is essentially the xbox's version of a .exe or a .bat, its just an executible file in a format windows can't understand (just like a mac can't understand a .exe file). so THEORETICALLY shouldn't there be SOME way to convert a .xbe to a .exe by changing how it initiates? Or am I just a retard and its completely diffrent from an .exe (or whatever a mac uses...) and would it require an complete re-write of the game itself to EVER be able to work on a pc? And also, could a pc ever run a (hevily modified) xbox OS from startup through virtualisation or something similar? I can't see anything immediately wrong with it, the 360 still is 32 (or is it 64... ) bit, so it should be able to at least use a standard processer (so long as the processer is also 64 bit) im just thinking out loud at this point, but I would for someone to say wheather or not any of this would be possible!

[gryffn]

Contrary to what the Xbox 360 Emulator! sticky says it is more then possible to emulate a Xbox 360. Hell I know coder friends who have already done just that. "The main unit of the Xbox 360 itself has slight double concavity in matte white or black. The official color of the white model is Arctic Chill. It features a port on the top when vertical (left side when horizontal) to which a custom-housed hard drive unit can be attached in sizes of either 20, 60, 120, 250, or 320 GB. Inside, the Xbox 360 uses the triple-core IBM designed Xenon as its CPU, with each core capable of simultaneously processing two threads, and can therefore operate on up to six threads at once.[27] Graphics processing is handled by the ATI Xenos, which has 10 MB of eDRAM. Its main memory pool is 512 MB in size." That's straight from the Xbox 360 wiki which is moderated by Microsoft. So let's see it uses a 3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon processor, I have a quad core processor. Done. It uses only 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700 MHz. I have 8 gb of DDR3 RAM. Done. It uses a 500 MHz ATI Xenos video card, I have a 1gb video card (don't feel like putting down what it is right now) that has run Skyrim better then a Xbox 360 possibly can with less lag. So I hope that sticky was a joke because if not then you are sorely mistaken. Oh also there are already PS3 emulators out there because the PS3 is around the same as the Xbox 360 so emulating that isn't a problem either.

i know its true because of what this person said on athother topic


by blueshogun96



Any emu that requires you to meet some certain condition in order to download is a fake. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

If you find one that actually has source code available, then you might have a legit project. Contrary to common belief, Xbox 360 IS possible to emulate on modern PC hardware. There just isn't enough documentation to emulate commercial games AFAIK, but more than enough to emulate the CPU, GPU, and a few other things like USB 2.0, etc. via homebrew. I've explained why it's possible on this forum many many times, but no one really listens, so...

Although it has *VERY* limited functionality, this is the only legit 360 emu project (xenia). I only say this because I know the guy who's writing it...