Playstation 3 emulator aren't done yet?

[xxTheNextxx]

you've been created playstation and PS2 emulator.
But why you didn't have to create a new Playstation 3 emulator? they has a Blu-ray Drive.

[Jale]

We don't create emulators. We supply them. And we won't see a working PlayStation 3 emulator in... well... a very, very, very long time. Not even a PlayStation 2 can be playable flawlessly.

[THANAMELESS]

you've been created playstation and PS2 emulator.
But why you didn't have to create a new Playstation 3 emulator? they has a Blu-ray Drive.

em, maybe because no computer in the world would be able to play it properly?:happy:
and also how newer it gets, how more illigal it gets -if you ofcourse don't own the games.-
because snes, nes, gb, gbc and maybe also n64 games aren't made anymore so nintendo -or with other consoles from sega of sony- doesn't get any profit of it so most of the times, when the roms aren't being sold online or stuff they don't really mind.
also i think the size of the ps3 games playes a big role

[retroguiden]

you've been created playstation and PS2 emulator.
But why you didn't have to create a new Playstation 3 emulator? they has a Blu-ray Drive.

haha, the funniest post of the day. Imagine that. If we made a PS3 emulator we could play Blue-ray movies on our computers!!! :p

Sorry, didn't mean to sound mean (heh, weird sentence), but I couldn't resist. :msn_shy:

[JoshM22]

Blu-Ray can already be played on a computer. They sell Blu-Ray players for PC's in most if not all electronic and video stores. Look into it.:D

[alcoatjez]

also i think the size of the ps3 games playes a big role

That should not be a problem.
Thing is that the PS3 is just to powerful to emulate within the next few (20 or so?) years.

[XeroForever]

Look dude PS3 emus will not be out out for a very long time close to 4-6 years, and we don't make them we gve help on them, and do you how much extinsive programming that would take. So you will jus have to wait until next gen systems until you can find a compatible PS3 emu.

[JoshM22]

you've been created playstation and PS2 emulator.
But why you didn't have to create a new Playstation 3 emulator? they has a Blu-ray Drive.

Some words of advice. Be patient and wait. Once the emulators have been created if they ever are. We can help you out with that, but once PS3 emulators come along. Like the other users here said it will be 4-6 years down the road.

[Chocho]

Look dude PS3 emus will not be out out for a very long time close to 4-6 years, and we don't make them we gve help on them, and do you how much extinsive programming that would take. So you will jus have to wait until next gen systems until you can find a compatible PS3 emu.

Yes, I just wanted to mention that it won't take for decades to see a working emulator for the PS3 or the Xbox 360. The PC evolves much faster than anyone could imagine so yeah, your data about the 4-6 years seems possible.

[retroguiden]

Yes, I just wanted to mention that it won't take for decades to see a working emulator for the PS3 or the Xbox 360. The PC evolves much faster than anyone could imagine so yeah, your data about the 4-6 years seems possible.

I'm not too sure about that. It's really the game industry that pushes the technology in our PC's forward at the high speed we've seen so far. However, more and more developers are considering dropping the PC as a gaming platform. A few years back games were done for the PC and then ported to the consoles. Now, more and more games goes the other way. From Consoles to computers and more and more games don't show up on the PC at all. That could slow the PC development considerably.

[monkeyboy85]

I'm not too sure about that. It's really the game industry that pushes the technology in our PC's forward at the high speed we've seen so far. However, more and more developers are considering dropping the PC as a gaming platform. A few years back games were done for the PC and then ported to the consoles. Now, more and more games goes the other way. From Consoles to computers and more and more games don't show up on the PC at all. That could slow the PC development considerably.


Don't be such a drama queen, games get released for certain consoles or pc or even all, thats been going on for a long time. Fact is alot of people try to create drama that the pc is dying off but you know, what are ALL games created on.....a pc! do you not think the developers need some kind of graphical power to create all these games? Nvidia are making huge amounts of money on each graphics card sold, the rate at which a new card comes along is getting quicker all the time and i'm fairly sure they arn't going to let that just dissapear. PCs have allways developed, become quicker and evolved, thats the nature of them and it will ALWAYS be the case. Getting back to the whole emulation thing its one of the most uncertain things going, no one could ever put a date on a ps3 emulator because its not a simple matter of speed and graphics power, just take a look at xbox, thats kind of on a level with the ps2 but ps2 emulators are to a degree flourishing while xbox emulators struggle to run a single thing. We're just about getting to grips with the N64.....thats where we are at the moment!:thumbdown

[RiderLeangle]

Emulators have to be on something more powerful than the console its emulating to run, and the PS3 is already more powerful than most computers, so when they can make a home PC powerful enough to run PS3, I'll be impressed. Hell, something that powerful will make Crysis bow down in terror of what its being run on

[retroguiden]

Don't be such a drama queen, games get released for certain consoles or pc or even all, thats been going on for a long time. Fact is alot of people try to create drama that the pc is dying off but you know, what are ALL games created on.....a pc!

Dramaqueen??? Where did that (and you) come from? Comparing extremely high-end computers and silicon graphics (or equivalent) machines with regular home PC's is really like comparing apples and oranges. I never said the PC would disappear!

OF COURSE the computers will continue to evolve. But I think there is a clear possibility that it evolve in other directions than has been the case these past 10-20 years. It's really all about games now and has been for the past years. You don't need a powerful graphics adapter and 3GB memory to run a movie player, a web browser and Office!

If the profits are coming from the consoles, that's where the developers will direct their attention to. This is a fact!
If a developer isn't making enough money on the PC market, they won't give a shit how much research Nvidia and others do on PC graphic cards.

More games than before are being developed for a specific console and as a second step may get ported to a PC-compatible format (mostly Windows). In some cases they don't bother porting it at all. This is a fact!

There are many small reasons for this. Piracy, very powerful current-gen consoles, exclusive contracts with console manufacturers, time, money etc.

I've been reading about this for the last couple of years or so and it really is a worrying prospect for a lot of people in the business.

Now, if it goes so far (I'm not saying that it does) that the game industry isn't pushing the boundaries of gaming technology for the PC any more - what will? Why would a family spend a lot of money on a new powerful graphics adapter if their son and daughter are almost only playing on their console? And they will play more on the console when they find that the ports to PC isn't as good as the original.

On the other hand, the consoles are becoming more and more like computers and it is a very clear possibility that the not too distant future will hold only one machine for all our entertainment needs. So who knows where it will end, or how, but it's stupidity to state there's no need to worry for PC Gamers!

[Mystic]

This is the most retarded thing I've ever read.

Since the technology for computers has been invented there has been a steady increase in performance and speed. With that increase more and more games are being developed every year. It's true that there are a lot of people out there not willing to put out the money for a gaming computer, but you gotta realize that a lot of people are struggling to just eat. As technology grows so will our need for it, very soon I see high grade PCs being a part of everyones life and it costing much less then they do now (kinda like that way everyone has a color TV now, not just rich people). When that happens, that's when you'll see a huge increase in PC games. Not that there's a lack of them now. There are a lot of amazing games for PC. World of Warcraft, Eve Online, Assassin's Creed, Sins of a Solar Empire, ect... Stop freaking out and realize PCs have no where to go but up. Expect to see many more great tittles for PC.

[retroguiden]

This is the most retarded thing I've ever read.

Since the technology for computers has been invented there has been a steady increase in performance and speed. With that increase more and more games are being developed every year. It's true that there are a lot of people out there not willing to put out the money for a gaming computer, but you gotta realize that a lot of people are struggling to just eat. As technology grows so will our need for it, very soon I see high grade PCs being a part of everyones life and it costing much less then they do now (kinda like that way everyone has a color TV now, not just rich people). When that happens, that's when you'll see a huge increase in PC games. Not that there's a lack of them now. There are a lot of amazing games for PC. World of Warcraft, Eve Online, Assassin's Creed, Sins of a Solar Empire, ect... Stop freaking out and realize PCs have no where to go but up. Expect to see many more great tittles for PC.

I'm not retarded :fuckyou:
And I'm not freaking out. When the "High grade PC's" you're talking about becomes reality we won't talk about PC games or console games anymore. That will probably be a more standardize platform. I mentioned this in my previous post. Computers and consoles as well as other entertainment items like TV's and stereo's are slowly coming together. HTPC's are a proof of that. Consoles today like XBox and the PS3 are also trying to be one machine including all. The PC as we know it today isn't going to last much longer, neither is the the console business. And until this happens we will most likely see a decline in PC games market (as is obvious even now - ask people in the business!).

[Mystic]

I don't see a "standardize platform" happening anytime soon. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are making way to much money to just give it up. Someday, maybe, but not anytime soon.

[js0823]

You won't see any emulator for PS3 and Xbox360 for long time to come, maybe in next 5~6 years you may see something.
And you don't seem to get something here. Emulator is, as name says, an emulator.
Games on consoles are made specifically for that console in mind, and emulator is simply trying to "emulate" the console. which is hard to do on a machine that is not designed to do so.
For example, PCSX2, incredible emulator btw, uses alot of cpu which makes our gpu cry because it's not using it. Developer can certainly code better and make use of our gpu, which if you bought powerful ones it is more powerful than PS2. But of course power isn't the issue here, it's compatibility. With the console games designed with specific console in mind, it will never run better on emulator.

[xxTheNextxx]

Updated : 11 january 2009

I've saw a new emulator category named "Playstion 3" , "Xbox 360" and "wii" emulators.

There are only wii emulators has dolphin which upgraded to.
but, Playstation 3 and xbox 360 emulators haven't done yet. This is too hard to do. so our hard disk must be over 80GB Hard disk and capability with windows vista and Windows SP2 or SP3.

[THANAMELESS]

to have my go... i fully agree with retroguiden. pc gaming as we know it now is dying off. there aren't enough people who buy a pc, with a graphic card from 600$ just to play the games wich you can play for 150$(at this moment) for a xbox 360, or for somethig like 300$ on a ps3. and although maybe some people do, they download illigal torrents or other stuff to get their games. xbox 360 and ps3 also can have illigal games, but it's a lot harder to get it on them. why does this slow down technology? the last few years, consoles always started way ahead pc possibilities, as the computers wanted to stay interesting for gamers, they needed to make very good graphic card, for games as cod4, gta4, gow, and assasin's to play on normal/high graphics. this caused a huge rush in developement, wich ended up in having good graphics card for freaking 600$... so the next xbox comes out and less and less games are coming to the pc, then after that the pc games won't last under the pressure of xbox/ps the companies just make more money on the consoles. what happens next that except for these boring tycoon games, nothing will come to the PC, wich will nvidia leave sitting with over a few thousand graphics cards, for games wich aren't coming. so nvidia, to stay alive, will actually make a downgrade, wich will result in graphic cards, for about 100$ where you can do everything on you need, flash schockwave word mail some download games and thats all. there is even a question to be asked if there is gonna be any developement after that and if the pc as we know it now wont dy off completely. because google is releasing a media codec for youtube and stuff for xbox/ps3 you can already play online, chat, go on the internet... so the consoles are getting more and more multimedia. eventually, the consoles will end up being the pc's and more, there are already keyboards available on the consoles and a mouse isn't far away neither, there is just no need for pc development.... or there has to change something in pc gaming fast... (wich in my opinion is, call the whole gaming industrie, music industrie and movie industrie out, to find something wich will end up messing your pc/tv/mp3 if you download it...)
although i would like typing this forum on a xbox360:D


This is too hard to do. so our hard disk must be over 80GB Hard disk and capability with windows vista and Windows SP2 or SP3.

i can't tell you what the specific specs are, but its gonna be very high, and not in near future when pc development slows down.

maybe there is already someone working on, with the knowledge it will take him a long time, and that when it finished he still has to wait a while before someone can play it:glare:

[the_EMU_kid]

you've been created playstation and PS2 emulator.
But why you didn't have to create a new Playstation 3 emulator? they has a Blu-ray Drive.

Come on people i think he is trying to be funny:glare:

[retroguiden]

Come on people i think he is trying to be funny:glare:

I think he was serious. :p

[Lil Sonic95]

Nope, Sorry
PS3 emulators won't be on for the next about 2-4 years ( and even then it will be very slow to play properly) but I HAVE HEARD* about a WII EMULATOR named dolphin that can play SOME Wii games PERFECTLY on the most advanced computers. So PS3 and XBox360 Emus won't be long for now.
* heard, I don't know it really is true

The best advice, get a real PS3 if you want to play it so badly:p (no offence intended on that tongue)

[retroguiden]

I heard that too, but understand that the Wii isn't near as advanced as Xbox360 or the PS3.

[FatTrucker]

Yep technologically the Wii is running last gen hardware so sits in the bracket with the PS2 and GC, they are only just getting to grips with the emulation of these systems and they are getting on for 8 or 9 years old.

PS3 emulation won't happen for a number of years, if at all. Processor speeds have reached a plateau now so there won't be the exponential growth that we have seen previously. The future is in multiple cores and it seems unlikely the hardware manufacturers will want to roll it out too quickly if they want a sustainable revenue stream for the next decade or so.

[AnAutisticDog]

Im sorry, I had to bring this up.

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[FatTrucker]

You realise thats not actually a working emulator right?. Someone chucked this up a while back and its fake.

[AnAutisticDog]

You realise thats not actually a working emulator right?. Someone chucked this up a while back and its fake.

LOL, of course.

[Lil Sonic95]

I heard that too, but understand that the Wii isn't near as advanced as Xbox360 or the PS3.

Yeah I do know that but they are starting to get the grip on next gen emulation aren't they? BTW and of course what would be harder to emulate the Wii controller or a PS3 controller? Controllers play a part in emulation too you know.

[alcoatjez]

Yeah I do know that but they are starting to get the grip on next gen emulation aren't they?

Please read the previous posts. The only reason Wii emulation is starting now is because it's similar to a GameCube.

[the_EMU_kid]

PLS someone close the thread

[Nearin]

Hey i know It is not possible but i was wondering if any could explain WHY they cant Partition a drive that runs the OS of PS3 and functions completely as a PS3 my computer has 4x2.4 Cores, (the graphics card might not be able to hang) but regardless of for me, the PS3's raw parts are outmatched by High end computers, I assume the need for more power is due to background programs and slightly inferrior programming, but the programming is unlikely to be that signifcantly inferior. If we are able to eliminate background programs by partitions, why cant this be done?

[FatTrucker]

Because you don't have the first clue how emulation works. The comparative spec of the host PC is irrelevant as a comparison to the hardware in the console.

The console does everything using dedicated chips and hardware with architecture that's designed for a specific purpose.

Any PC running emulation has to duplicate everything that hardware is doing, a bit like not installing a graphics card in your PC and trying to emulate a GeForce 8800GT using just your processor.

Background tasks have absolutely nothing to do with it. In order for your PC to emulate a PS3 in the way you describe your PC would need to have all the PS3 hardware inside it.....just like a PS3.

[Nearin]

Didn't realize there Where Signifficant difference in th hardware based on being able to trun them into computers.


I didn't think that was actaullly possible or some one would have done it, i just wanted to know why it wasn't.

[Zach]

Think of it this way..


Pick 10 different cars, even some from the same manufacturer and you will find parts in one car that cannot be used in the other.

Things are made different, different sizes, different ways of functioning, different connections, etc.. Just like buying an air filter for your car. Have to get the right model, made to work with your car..

PC's are the same way.. Just like you can't run Apple software on an Intel/AMD based system (Apple now sells PCs that use Intel CPU's so its now possible to do both, only on those specific Apple computers). Their chips are built differently, process data differently, and communicate differently. They can't talk to software coded for another platform.

Just like you can't take an NES game and run it on a PS3, without an emulator.. It's all different hardware. Just isn't gonna work.

PC's emulate other systems by software. A programmer emulates the function of the console CPU/GPU and other hardware, via a software platform. This takes enemormous processing power, even when you have plugins that allow you to use your own graphics card for 3D acceleration. It has to be tweaked to be extremely efficient, and accurate. Which is why emulators take years to develop into a truly stable and playable product.

I'm sure it is possible with an Intel Quad Core to maybe get a rudimentary PS3 emulator going, but it won't be near powerful enough to actually play games or anything like that.. The programmer would also have to be experienced in programming multi-threaded, multi-cpu applications, to understand how to best use the resources and distribute the workload across multiple cores.

It's really a lot of work.. It takes something like a 100Mhz 486 to fully emulate an NES system, running at a puny 1 or 2 Mhz.

On top of all that, Emulators are developed using a process called Reverse Engineering. R.E is an extremely expensive and time consuming process, and that is for corporations that actually employ people to do it and have millions of dollars.. Emulator programmers have to emulate the hardware using NO original code from the actual system because otherwise it would be copyright infringement. So they have to design their software functions, design an OS/BIOS system that communicates with the hardware, allows the hardware to communicate with each other, handle input, output, and understands the language the games are written in, and then run it. Using NO original code. So it takes a long time and dedicated programmers to do this

[houdini]

The Mac OSX argument doesn't hold anymore really. They're selling a PC box which you can buy with OSX or install it yourself from a disk.

How?

The company had a look at Mac's and found that now they're really just using PC bits, albeit with some custom firmware to make it Mac like. So this company bought the same bits off the shelf, hacked up the firmware (flashing isn't that hard) and lo and behold you can install OSX on the box because it thinks it's mac hardware.

I believe the same concept holds true for PS3 and Xbox. It's all just hardware and software. To my mind there's no reason you can't hunt around and buy the same bits (easier in an xbox) and with some clever programmers you can make the PC you've just built look like an xbox to the xbox OS. You can even buy the Cell engine chip from the PS3, you can buy the Xbox 360 bits, jeeze you can flash the firware on DVD drives and swap them out in the 360.

It's doable.

[houdini]

More:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4242447.stm
The new processor is set to ignite a fresh battle between Intel and the Cell consortium over which processor sits at the centre of digital products.

The PlayStation 3 is expected in 2006, while Toshiba plans to incorporate it into high-end televisions next year.

IBM has said it will sell a workstation with the chip starting later this year.
IBM said Cell was "OS neutral" and would support multiple operating systems simultaneously but designers would not confirm if Microsoft's Windows was among those tested with the chip.

[FatTrucker]

A lot of what people miss though is that a PS3 emulator can't access the cell processor and its functions the same way that a PS3 does. Because that wouldn't be reverse engineered and would breach copyright. Any emulator has to be able to emulate what the PS3 does but without using any of the same processes or code that the PS3 does, making the prospect of a working emulator quite a bit more complicated than simply having compatible technology.

[houdini]

...Because that wouldn't be reverse engineered and would breach copyright. Any emulator has to be able to emulate what the PS3 does but without using any of the same processes or code that the PS3 does, making the prospect of a working emulator quite a bit more complicated than simply having compatible technology.

Yes fair point.

[alcoatjez]

Any PC running emulation has to duplicate everything that hardware is doing, a bit like not installing a graphics card in your PC and trying to emulate a GeForce 8800GT using just your processor.

Saved for future use. This is the sentence that will save me a lot of "blah, this emu is so slow..." discussions ;)

[smashin85]

What do they make the games on for the PS3? Isn't it a computer based system with a special emulator? I could be wrong.

[Jale]

What do they make the games on for the PS3? Isn't it a computer based system with a special emulator? I could be wrong.
They test everything on the system they were made for. Emulators are software that were reverse engineered to make them work and it's not an easy task. And, closed. No more PS3/Xbox360 emulation topics, please. It's not gonna happen in many years to come. Period.