GAMECUBE???

[soulkillerpm]

i downloaded the "dolphin" emulator, and i can't seem to find ANY gamecube roms...maby i just dont know the right type of downloads, what do i look for to download gamecube roms?

[THANAMELESS]

i downloaded the "dolphin" emulator, and i can't seem to find ANY gamecube roms...maby i just dont know the right type of downloads, what do i look for to download gamecube roms?

Although we may not provide you with roms, use your good friend google. be aware of that you sometimes need to download multiple files, and that these files are pretty big.

[retroguiden]

Is the Gamecube emulators worth it? I mean, do they actually play games yet?

[THANAMELESS]

Is the Gamecube emulators worth it? I mean, do they actually play games yet?

yes i thought they do but with a lot of trouble and big files.

[FatTrucker]

Is the Gamecube emulators worth it? I mean, do they actually play games yet?

Not really, and not in a remarkably complete state. GC emulation is still very much a WIP. You also need a very meaty PC to even start getting something running, and even then the results usually aren't worth it.

Maybe in a year or 3 but a bit of a waste of time at the moment IMO.

[retroguiden]

Not really, and not in a remarkably complete state. GC emulation is still very much a WIP. You also need a very meaty PC to even start getting something running, and even then the results usually aren't worth it.

Maybe in a year or 3 but a bit of a waste of time at the moment IMO.

Ok, Have you actually tried it, and recently? (And more than one game).
I wonder this because someone else told me he played Zelda Wind Waker fine on his PC.

[XeroForever]

Ok, Have you actually tried it, and recently? (And more than one game).
I wonder this because someone else told me he played Zelda Wind Waker fine on his PC.
Ok dude look a little while back Rockman and Forte was running two games almost perfecly using dolphin. These games were TLOZ: TP and TLOZ: WW.

I don't know all the specs but he was using two PC's to run it. It looked to me he was using XP so he probably was using two of his last generation computers. Now if you have a very modern PC with all the works you probably won't have a problem running a GC game. Now if you have what I have a last generation PC and only one you can expect to have some problems. And also what you want to do is google the game and put Mininova in front of it. And you should find what your looking for. And remember check the comments box.

[THANAMELESS]

Not really, and not in a remarkably complete state. GC emulation is still very much a WIP. You also need a very meaty PC to even start getting something running, and even then the results usually aren't worth it.

Maybe in a year or 3 but a bit of a waste of time at the moment IMO.

even if it doesnt work quite well at the moment, you could start testing and learning so later on you can start off fast, so it wouldn't be a waste. still i think it is possible to run gc games almost perfectly with very high specs and very few games + the right plugins.{not now actually but i think in near future.} btw how could you see on this pictures it was running with great fps, so it proberly wasn't yet flawless, but that's my opinion

i've tried it but my laptop can't handle it {like i expected} but i've learned much from it.

[retroguiden]

Ok dude look a little while back Rockman and Forte was running two games almost perfecly using dolphin. These games were TLOZ: TP and TLOZ: WW.

I don't know all the specs but he was using two PC's to run it. It looked to me he was using XP so he probably was using two of his last generation computers. Now if you have a very modern PC with all the works you probably won't have a problem running a GC game. Now if you have what I have a last generation PC and only one you can expect to have some problems. And also what you want to do is google the game and put Mininova in front of it. And you should find what your looking for. And remember check the comments box.

First of all, don't call me 'Dude'. :glare:
What do you mean 2 PC's??? Are you talking about 2 core processors?

As for generation PC's I don't use those terms since the lines between them are not sharp enough. You could have 4 core processor but a shitty old graphics card. What generation is that? It's fine when you talk about consoles but I find it hard to apply the term to PC's. So can you be more specific, please?

And I didn't need or never asked for info about where to get a game. I have access to GC-games, just want to know if it's worth my time yet.

But yesterday I tried out Super Puzzle Bobble All Stars. It took forever to start and then it ran at 6-7fps. Using Tick modifier 4 (is that some kind of frame skip?) it rose to 12-13fps. Enabling Dynarec it went up to 16. (Modifier 4 + dynarec sends it up to between 25 and 55fps). oh, and on Tick 4 the screens flickers alot.

Are there any other recommended graphic plugins?
And another thing, I can't configure my gamepad. Is there any other pad plugins recommended?

[FatTrucker]

As I said, its still a WIP, meaning compatibility is variable, many things don't work properly and there needs to be lots of different configuration done just to get different games visibly moving, let alone moving at a playable frame rate.

Everyone jumped in stating that was wrong and rockman has done this and they've seen that etc. The fact is the emulation isn't that good yet. You might see some usable results with a quick Core2Duo, 2Gb+Ram and a decent GPU but even then there are only a few titles that might run and they won't run flawlessly without bugs.

To state any different will just see the boards swamped with requests from people trying to get their GC emulators working when in most cases there aren't actually any solutions.

IMO for anyone to say GC emulation 'works' in the sense that you can play most GC games on it at a playable frame rate without bugs is just spreading misinformation.

So I would wait a while until things improve.

[retroguiden]

As I said, its still a WIP, meaning compatibility is variable, many things don't work properly and there needs to be lots of different configuration done just to get different games visibly moving, let alone moving at a playable frame rate.

Everyone jumped in stating that was wrong and rockman has done this and they've seen that etc. The fact is the emulation isn't that good yet. You might see some usable results with a quick Core2Duo, 2Gb+Ram and a decent GPU but even then there are only a few titles that might run and they won't run flawlessly without bugs.

To state any different will just see the boards swamped with requests from people trying to get their GC emulators working when in most cases there aren't actually any solutions.

IMO for anyone to say GC emulation 'works' in the sense that you can play most GC games on it at a playable frame rate without bugs is just spreading misinformation.

So I would wait a while until things improve.

My initial question was "do they actually play games yet?".
Your direct answer to that was "Not really", which is not very true if we consider that what Rockman and a few others are saying is true.

I know we obviously consider "GC emulation works" differently, but it would have been nice if you had answered my question from my side of the interpretation of the word "works". It was not that hard to figure out if you read my post with an open mind.

For me GC emulation does work if a few games are playable. That was what I wanted confirmation about initially. Now, I just wait for answers to my follow-up questions in my previous post.

[FatTrucker]

The answers still no. There aren't any games you can play with a GC emulator that work as well as they do on a GC.

So yes in the sense that you can get some games physically working on screen, but no they aren't emulated properly, have all sorts of bugs and in every case I'm aware of don't play all the way through without crashing...so in that context...no.

Again though you need a fast Core2Duo, 2Gb+ ram and a good GPU, anything less and its not worth even trying to get started at the moment.

To tell you anything else would be misleading and just lead to you spending hours getting frustrated and annoyed trying to make it work, because someone on the internet told you it will....when in most case it wont.

No bother to me either way, its your time and effort mate.

[retroguiden]

The answers still no. There aren't any games you can play with a GC emulator that work as well as they do on a GC.

So yes in the sense that you can get some games physically working on screen, but no they aren't emulated properly, have all sorts of bugs and in every case I'm aware of don't play all the way through without crashing...so in that context...no.

Again though you need a fast Core2Duo, 2Gb+ ram and a good GPU, anything less and its not worth even trying to get started at the moment.

To tell you anything else would be misleading and just lead to you spending hours getting frustrated and annoyed trying to make it work, because someone on the internet told you it will....when in most case it wont.

No bother to me either way, its your time and effort mate.

Ok I understand what you're saying. But just to get the facts right; would you say that these persons claiming to be playing through Zelda: WW are either lying or dreaming (or whatever)?
According to you, there are *no* playable games on Dolphin or other GC emulators? Never mind sound issues or graphical bugs, I mean playable frame rates, acceptable graphics etc. Remember that issues like that comes with many N64 games and that system is considered emulated. And never mind what computer I need for it.)

[THANAMELESS]

Ok I understand what you're saying. But just to get the facts right; would you say that these persons claiming to be playing through Zelda: WW are either lying or dreaming (or whatever)?
According to you, there are *no* playable games on Dolphin or other GC emulators? Never mind sound issues or graphical bugs, I mean playable frame rates, acceptable graphics etc. Remember that issues like that comes with many N64 games and that system is considered emulated. And never mind what computer I need for it.)

MMM.... i think he either is lying or has some emulator wich no one in the world jet has

[XeroForever]

First of all, don't call me 'Dude'. :glare:
What do you mean 2 PC's??? Are you talking about 2 core processors?

As for generation PC's I don't use those terms since the lines between them are not sharp enough. You could have 4 core processor but a shitty old graphics card. What generation is that? It's fine when you talk about consoles but I find it hard to apply the term to PC's. So can you be more specific, please?

And I didn't need or never asked for info about where to get a game. I have access to GC-games, just want to know if it's worth my time yet.

But yesterday I tried out Super Puzzle Bobble All Stars. It took forever to start and then it ran at 6-7fps. Using Tick modifier 4 (is that some kind of frame skip?) it rose to 12-13fps. Enabling Dynarec it went up to 16. (Modifier 4 + dynarec sends it up to between 25 and 55fps). oh, and on Tick 4 the screens flickers alot.

Are there any other recommended graphic plugins?
And another thing, I can't configure my gamepad. Is there any other pad plugins recommended?

Well sorry "Dude" Just trying to help and it seemed like your original post was asking where to get roms for GC. ANd I don't know all the spec ok I am still new to this and just trying to help.

[retroguiden]

Well sorry "Dude" Just trying to help and it seemed like your original post was asking where to get roms for GC. ANd I don't know all the spec ok I am still new to this and just trying to help.

Ok, the original poster asking for roms in this thread wasn't me. But I just want to clear something up from your previous post. You stated that Rockman (or someone) was playing Zelda with 'two PC's'. Did you mean that:

1. He used 2 computers somehow together to run the (1) game?
2. He used two PC's separately and both could run the game?
3. He used a dual core pc to run the game?

[XeroForever]

Ok, the original poster asking for roms in this thread wasn't me. But I just want to clear something up from your previous post. You stated that Rockman (or someone) was playing Zelda with 'two PC's'. Did you mean that:

1. He used 2 computers somehow together to run the (1) game?
2. He used two PC's separately and both could run the game?
3. He used a dual core pc to run the game?
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[azoreseuropa]

I have to come here because I am tired of some people know nothing about emulators and assume and say it is fake or not work or anything... You guys need to go to http://forums.ngemu.com/dolphin-discussion/ for more knowledgement. I hope it helps you guys and maybe apology to me. :) I am out. :)

Hahahahaha... Read your pm and you too, Thanameless.

Number 3 is correct.

No, there is no such things with two pc.. and there is no such things as 2 pc's separately and both could run the game. Wrong!

You only need core 2 duo and better video card and above 2gb of ram. Please do not assume me of lying. Go to http://forums.ngemu.com/dolphin-discussion/ and they have many emulator developers and many people test like I do since emulator zone don't have that and you will be surprise. I am not lying. I have experience and test for over 7 years. Here:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2m5l6gx.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/ml467l.jpg

http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/

Requirement:


System Requirements

* Windows XP or higher, or a 64-bit Linux install.
* Fast CPU with SSE2. Dual core a plus.
* Any reasonable modern GPU, support for pixel shaders 2.0 required.

I rest my case. :)

[FatTrucker]

Never mind sound issues or graphical bugs, I mean playable frame rates, acceptable graphics etc.

In that case if you want to ignore the fact that the games don't work properly then yes some games will physically run on the emulator 'if' you have a Core2Duo, 2Gb+ ram and a good GPU.


Remember that issues like that comes with many N64 games and that system is considered emulated. And never mind what computer I need for it.)

GC emulation is nowhere near as complete as N64 emulation. See above, without a high end system then the answer is no you won't get playable framerates....nowhere near.

[THANAMELESS]

I have to come here because I am tired of some people know nothing about emulators and assume and say it is fake or not work or anything... You guys need to go to http://forums.ngemu.com/dolphin-discussion/ for more knowledgement. I hope it helps you guys and maybe apology to me. :) I am out. :)

Hahahahaha... Read your pm and you too, Thanameless.

Number 3 is correct.

No, there is no such things with two pc.. and there is no such things as 2 pc's separately and both could run the game. Wrong!

You only need core 2 duo and better video card and above 2gb of ram. Please do not assume me of lying. Go to http://forums.ngemu.com/dolphin-discussion/ and they have many emulator developers and many people test like I do since emulator zone don't have that and you will be surprise. I am not lying. I have experience and test for over 7 years. Here:

http://i35.tinypic.com/2m5l6gx.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/ml467l.jpg

http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/

Requirement:



I rest my case. :)

you could be right but even then the pictures don't show that it has a perfect framerate and stuff

have to come here because I am tired of some people know nothing about emulators and assume and say it is fake or not work or anything..

this is offending. you are saying that i and other people don't know anything about emulators. THIS IS NOT TRUE, i know i might not be the smartest person and do not now a lot about GC emulating but i do sure now something about pj64 no$gba and vba, so don't assume people are dumb without even knowing them

[azoreseuropa]

Never mind. I am wrong in some way, ok? You are wrong in some way too. Go to NGC emulator team and they will tell you otherwise. I am just test of this emulator. You are against their development team. That's all I am saying is that it's working fine with many games I test, period. You don't have to believe me. I am enjoying this emulator and I am testing it now. They are release it already but you have to complied it yourself until they decide to release binary version when they feel that their beta testers are satisfied with it first. I say no more, thanks.

[FatTrucker]

I didnt say "dumb" did I ? I never say that. I dont see the word in there.

Anyway, the framerate is not doing well because it was a little bit older version and there is latest version which is not out yet. We are the test and we complied svn that is update everyday to report the bugs and problem to the NGC EMULATOR developer but the fps for a fully speed of the latest version shown 30 fps and accord to the NGC developer emulator and it's VERY playable and fully.

The Zelda Wind Waker fps is 30 and fully speed and no graphic errors at all. I almost finish with few games without a problem include zelda TP..

I am saying that I am tired of some people who dont know nothing about emulators and will tell you that it is not playable or anything and they are act like they pretend they knew and confused people like you when it is really playable. I dont like people being assume and guess and lying too much. You are doing just fine and I am not saying you.. OK ? :)

Not really Rockman. What you are saying is that there is a closed beta that's improved over the version available to anyone on the forum who might use the current version.

So effectively until a better working version is actually released its irrelevant whether it exists at all. I'm sure mamedev have builds of mame running all sorts of stuff that's not in the public releases, it doesn't mean its right to tell end users something works when its not available to end users.

All that does is frustrate people, and waste their time who are trying to get the results you are telling them are possible, when they don't realise they can't actually get access to the version that you're testing.

Your tone as usual is condescending and offensive to many users, and your advice as usual applies to you and your system rather than giving an accurate answer for them and their system.

[THANAMELESS]

I have to come here because I am tired of some people know nothing about emulators and assume and say it is fake or not work or anything...
I said its fake and saying KNOW NOTHING ABOUT EMULATORS i see as a smart way of saying i am dumb

[FatTrucker]

I said its fake and saying KNOW NOTHING ABOUT EMULATORS i see as a smart way of saying i am dumb

Its not Fake. There just isn't a complete version with good compatibility on public release. So as far as end users are concerned GC emulation still isn't very good.

When they eventually release the current closed beta, if it has lots of improvements then great, but for now at least, users talking about how they can get the emulator to work like this and do that, when they are talking about a closed beta are simply trying to look clever, it doesn't however help users who are trying to get the current public release working properly, which is what this site is meant to be about - not users who know what they are doing, but supporting new users who don't......sad really.

[THANAMELESS]

Its not Fake. There just isn't a complete version with good compatibility on public release. So as far as end users are concerned GC emulation still isn't very good.

When they eventually release the current closed beta, if it has lots of improvements then great, but for now at least, users talking about how they can get the emulator to work like this and do that, when they are talking about a closed beta are simply trying to look clever, it doesn't however help users who are trying to get the current public release working properly, which is what this site is meant to be about - not users who know what they are doing, but supporting new users who don't......sad really.
i know what a close beta is, but i did not actually hear anyone bragging around that they have a good working gc game. -except for that friend from that guy who posted that topic- /woah weird sentence\


There just isn't a complete version with good compatibility on public release. So as far as end users are concerned GC emulation still isn't very good. thats what i ment

[retroguiden]

I have to come here because I am tired of some people know nothing about emulators and assume and say it is fake or not work or anything... You guys need to go to http://forums.ngemu.com/dolphin-discussion/ for more knowledgement.

No! You need to stop acting like you're so knowledgable and speak up. i've tried to get things clear about GC emulation and *noone* can give me a straight answer. you just keep pitching the same old line over and over.
"You only need core 2 duo and better video card and above 2gb of ram."

What the h*ll do you mean with better video card? That's no help!!! What defines a "better" video card?? You have posted a couple of times and you have sent me 2 PM's but nowhere have you tried to explain yourself and your statements before.
When you say that you play this and that you need to provide some proof and/or some explanation as to what is necessary to do what you do. Else people will call you a fake or a lyer!


No, there is no such things with two pc.. and there is no such things as 2 pc's separately and both could run the game. Wrong!

I didn't think so either. I was just trying to find out what XeroForever meant.



In that case if you want to ignore the fact that the games don't work properly then yes some games will physically run on the emulator 'if' you have a Core2Duo, 2Gb+ ram and a good GPU.

Well, if the game mechanics work and I can finish the game AND the fps is acceptable then I would say the game is playable. But that info is hard to come by here...


GC emulation is nowhere near as complete as N64 emulation.

I never said that. I just pointed it out since the N64 ganes are considered "playable". That term can mean a lot of things...


Anyway, the framerate is not doing well because it was a little bit older version and there is latest version which is not out yet.

I agree with FatTrucker. Don't come and say it works when it's a version that's not public yet! That is, unless that version is accessible by everyone. if you had said this from the start we wouldn't be in this messy thread.


I dont like people being assume and guess and lying too much.

Well, I would say you brought it on yourself this time. Put all the facts on the table next time. I know alot about emulation but I need decent, straight answers.

[FatTrucker]

Put all the facts on the table next time. I know alot about emulation but I need decent, straight answers.

In fairness, I thought I did that with my first post where I said no. Everyone seemed to go nuts at that point and started arguing, wanting specifics, wanting answers etc....which is what usually happens when discussing emulators that people really want to work.

So a simple no was accurate and would have saved a lot of confusion, wasted time and faffing about (as I advised in the first place). Its taken 2 days and 3 pages of posts to reach the conclusion I gave in the first place. :D

[retroguiden]

In fairness, I thought I did that with my first post where I said no. Everyone seemed to go nuts at that point and started arguing, wanting specifics, wanting answers etc....which is what usually happens when discussing emulators that people really want to work.

So a simple no was accurate and would have saved a lot of confusion, wasted time and faffing about (as I advised in the first place). Its taken 2 days and 3 pages of posts to reach the conclusion I gave in the first place. :D

Ok, in all fairness you did. What you didn't do however was provide some explanation or more details on the subject when it really was your 'No' against some other people's 'Yes' and no side could tell me enough so that I could pick out the 'truth' for myself. Anyways, that matter's cleared up and I'll just wait for the next release of Dolphin. :happy:

[FatTrucker]

Amen to that eh?. :msn_wink:

[retroguiden]

Never mind. I am wrong in some way, ok? You are wrong in some way too. Go to NGC emulator team and they will tell you otherwise. I am just test of this emulator. You are against their development team. That's all I am saying is that it's working fine with many games I test, period. You don't have to believe me. I am enjoying this emulator and I am testing it now. They are release it already but you have to complied it yourself until they decide to release binary version when they feel that their beta testers are satisfied with it first. I say no more, thanks.

It's very hard to follow this thread and your answers when you're editing a previous post instead of making a new post. But never mind that now.

I hope you're not stating that I'm wrong about something here because I'm not.
We believe you in this:
You are an official(?) tester for the emu and in the latest unofficial version you get some games working quite well. We believe you!

But when it's not official and accessible for the public (a version you have to compile yourself is not accessible to the general public) it's of *no use* for someone asking if it's working well enough so that they can play a game.
I think that is the biggest misunderstanding here. But thanks anyway for all the info on the progress. I think I have my answer now. ;)

[alexxi]

SSBM runs near flawless in dolphin, with a good pc in 32 bit(64 bit is probably better), it runs too fast in specific places/times and even faster with no sound...and there's no speed limiter.
http://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/wiki/WindowsBuild
http://www.nyleveia.com/daco/

[Ecbo]

need a little help her=P when i start the emulator(Dolphin) and load upp a game i get upp a massage... u can not play before u have enterd the plug in controller and it is some erro on som BIN. files... wtf is this all about??=P plz help me=D

[ulaoulao]

What is all this crap about?

retroguiden, Not sure if you got a straight answer.. yes GC emulation works. You need a vista machine with a core duo and the latest "unreleased" co-op code for dolphin.

Yes I have played games, yes they are glitchy, and yes they run choppy at times. but playable IMO.

If you did come to the conclusion in 4 thread then disregard.