Rapidshare To Be Forced to Shut Down Following Court Defeat?

cibomatto2002

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Jale

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Which one? .de or .com?

rapidshare.de is in Germany and rapidshare.com is in the US.
 

spotanjo3

Active member
I am not concern about music because I am not into it. I think they should shut it down because music is very popular and many famous people are hard at work to sell the music for money. Many people are getting it to sell for profits instead of themselves most of time.
 

TchuBacha

I am the Stig
But rapidshare isnt breaking any copyright laws. All they are doing is provide space for their users to upload and share their files easily across the 'net. Its what the users of their service are doing which is break copyright laws.
 

onewecallgod

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But rapidshare isnt breaking any copyright laws. All they are doing is provide space for their users to upload and share their files easily across the 'net. Its what the users of their service are doing which is break copyright laws.
If you're the get-away driver for a bank robber, does that mean you're completely innocent of the crime? If you know people are using your service for illegal activities and you do nothing to stop it, then you're just as guilty.

I pirate software all the time, but I'm not ignorant enough to justify it through some illogical loophole.
 

Ryanfaescotland

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If you're the get-away driver for a bank robber, does that mean you're completely innocent of the crime? If you know people are using your service for illegal activities and you do nothing to stop it, then you're just as guilty.

I pirate software all the time, but I'm not ignorant enough to justify it through some illogical loophole.

Well no because the get-away driver is aiding and abetting (sp?) the robbers and most likely getting a share of the theft. A closer analogy would be if the robbers used a gun then isn't the company that manafactured the gun accountable?
 

TchuBacha

I am the Stig
If you're the get-away driver for a bank robber, does that mean you're completely innocent of the crime? If you know people are using your service for illegal activities and you do nothing to stop it, then you're just as guilty.

I pirate software all the time, but I'm not ignorant enough to justify it through some illogical loophole.

If you take that approach then the people who make CDR's and DVDR's are involved in piracy.

The people who sell DVD recorders, VCRs are acting illegally.

This forum is illegal because it contains guides on how to run ISOs and ROMs.

ISPs are illegal because they let you connect to the internet and allow you to download anything.

Microsoft is also involved in illegal activities because many people uses Windows to burn their warez.

Google is illegal because you can use it to search the 'net for ISOS and ROMS.

eBay, Ebuyer, amazon, play........ are all illegal because they sell software to burn ISOS and blank media


We all know Google will never get sued because they are there to provide a way for people to search the internet for anything illegal or otherwise. Its just that the people that use google are using illegally. Probably only 0.0000001% of searches made with google are for illegal files.

Rapidshare is just as illegal as google. RS provide space on the internet for people to share their files. Their motto (I guess) is "The easy way to share your files". I no way do they blataintly advertise "come here and download illegal ISOS/ DVD rips / ROMs etc.... for free".

Rapidshare without question will remove any files that are illegal if they are made aware of them being uploaded and stored on their servers.

Does that sound like the actions of an illegal service?



^ My 2 cents :D
 

onewecallgod

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You are taking my analogy too far (although it wasn't very good, I'll admit that). All those things you mentioned, OSes, cd burners, Google...etc have many legitimate uses. Rapidshare is like a torrent site: it uses a legitimate protocal for the purpose piracy. Let me ask you this: how much of Rapidshare's bandwith is used for legitimate means?
 

TchuBacha

I am the Stig
You are taking my analogy too far (although it wasn't very good, I'll admit that). All those things you mentioned, OSes, cd burners, Google...etc have many legitimate uses. Rapidshare is like a torrent site: it uses a legitimate protocal for the purpose piracy. Let me ask you this: how much of Rapidshare's bandwith is used for legitimate means?

I have no idea.

How many CDRs and DVDRs are used legitimately?


RS has its own legitimate uses. Torrent sites have their legitimate uses. P2P programs have their legitimate uses. But you can't shut them all down tomorrow because their users are abusing it.

If RS openly advertises it was hosting illegal software then shut it down. Because it isnt openely advertising the illegal software that is on their servers I dont think they should be forced to shutdown.

There was a P2P program that was shutdown a few years back because they were openly advertising the illegal files (Casino Royale I think it was) that could be obtained through their services. That I agree with.

Shutting down RS would open the gates to have all file hosters shutdown leaving nowhere for anyone to share their own files.
 
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RockY

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I have no idea.
Shutting down RS would open the gates to have all file hosters shutdown leaving nowhere for anyone to share their own files.


There are many other sites like RS, if they manage to close it it won't really affect the piracy or the file sharing if you want to call it like that.
 

TchuBacha

I am the Stig
There are many other sites like RS, if they manage to close it it won't really affect the piracy or the file sharing if you want to call it like that.

It would put as big of a dent in piracy as a spoon would to a bugatti veyron.
 

Ryanfaescotland

New member
I agree with most of what you are saying TchuBacha but I think it would be rather naive to think that the distribution of copywrited material isn't a major factor as to why people use such software. Ok so shutting it down is not the answer but forcing them to put more control over what can be distributed isn't asking too much and if they don't do that then what other option is there?

I was thinking back to when the Sub7 trojan was on the go and remember its site advertising it as a tool for network admin. Now it could be used as that but for the most part it is used for malicious purposes. The argument your putting forth is like saying virus software shouldn't detect Sub7 since it has a legitimate use. Ok it's not exactly the same but I thought I'd put it out as a thought :)
 

TchuBacha

I am the Stig
I could go on and on with examples for services being missed used by their users.

My arguement is that RS and similar sites shouldnt be shutdown purely because the owners of the service arent doing anything illegal.

What percentage of CDRs and DVDRs do you think are used legally? Very small is my guess, but the manufacturers arent being shutdown because they argue that they have their legitimate uses and are not encouraging piracy.

RS are no different to the manufacturers of blank media.

Yes is obvious that sites like RS are used to distribute copyright material, just as much as google is there to help people find links to copyright material. RS do their best to ensure any copyright material found on their servers are removed ASAP.
 

Hrothgar

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I personally don't care if someone is downloading copyrighted material. Half of the time the good musicians out there don't care if you download their music. Besides, most musicians make there money off of concerts and merchandise. I don't like the music industry, it corrupts the true intentions of artists by offering them money in exchange for sounding more radio-friendly.

When it comes to games, I think downloading old games is all good. Yeah we got virtual console coming out now that allows us to buy classics legitimately, but there are a still a lot of games you can't obtain if not illegally.

I think I show the most pity for software. Programmers and such do rely on the purchase of their product. However, I don't feel guilty pirating programs like Adobe's software because they cost WAY too much.

I also don't really like to pirate movies/shows. There are so many people who get paid from movies. Once again, still, movies make more of their money from theatrical release. Also, if a show/movie isn't available on DVD, regardless of whether it's copyrighted or not, I say that's free game as well.

This is the age of information. File sharing isn't going to stop. These sites are like the mythical sea serpent Hydra. You cut one down an two come up in it's place.
 
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