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RiderLeangle
January 30th, 2008, 00:46
Is it possible to make a Sega Genesis USB controller, By using a Genesis Controller (Duh), a broken (the wires inside, not the port) USB extender (cutting the plug part off), scisors, and hopefully electrical tape (I don't know how to solder)

ulaoulao
January 30th, 2008, 02:40
with out soldering sure, I would not recommend it but here is how..

you get a usb controller and gut it out, then convert the buttons from the gen to the usb "inereds" of the usb controller.

Making a gen 2 usb is not all that hard but the best way is to get the components and solder it together.

the reason you can't just tape and tie wires is that a usb need an ID chip to tell the computer what it is. then you must use a USB protocol to talk to the computer. So you either a) build one or b) steel from another usb device.

And,, no a mouse usb chip wont work...

RiderLeangle
January 30th, 2008, 06:36
Well if I was going to buy a USB controller why wouldn't I just use that!? I want to make some kind of controller that I could use. And is Gamecube just as hard?

ulaoulao
January 30th, 2008, 13:39
Most people do this because they want the original joystick not because they are cheep. All usb devices joysticks and mice alike will require a usb Identifier chip, no if's and's or but's about it.

If you want a cheep usb joystick look to ebay or flee markets.

RiderLeangle
January 30th, 2008, 19:30
Why wouldn't I just buy one of those wired 360 controllers?

ulaoulao
January 30th, 2008, 19:58
Why wouldn't I just buy one of those wired 360 controllers? how is that different from
Well if I was going to buy a USB controller why wouldn't I just use that!?

To each their own. Personally I want the original joystick for my emulation. If a 360 controller to suffice for you then buy it. If it is too much, then converting a gen controller (no soldering) to usb is out since it costs the same. It all depends on what your are really looking to do here. My guess is that your trying to save a buck, and in this case i would advise you to get the cheapest usb controller you can find whatever it may be.

RiderLeangle
January 31st, 2008, 00:50
Is there at least some kind of controller that can be modded without soldering to be a USB controller?

ulaoulao
January 31st, 2008, 02:14
yes as I said before, any xbox "corded" controller.

the cable colors are practically the same, match them up. Cut twist tie, what ever you wish..

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Mods/images/wiremod_020.jpg I would recommend reading up on it so you dont mess it up, there is no guaranty I can give you based on your skill level. I have done over 20 my self. start here (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Mods/xbox_controller_to_pc_usb.htm)..

RiderLeangle
January 31st, 2008, 03:45
I never got an original Xbox, the only Xbox I have is 360, And as you can tell, this controller is Wireless
http://www.maj.com/gallery/manaleader/Avatar2/allhaloandelitecontroller.jpg

ulaoulao
January 31st, 2008, 04:19
what about the questsion
Is there at least some kind of controller that can be modded without soldering to be a USB controller? did I not answer? I know what you have but you didnt ask that, did you.?

RiderLeangle
January 31st, 2008, 10:45
So basicly original Xbox is the ONLY controller that can be modded just by electrical taping the wires to USB wires?

ulaoulao
January 31st, 2008, 13:32
I think you got it.

RiderLeangle
January 31st, 2008, 19:15
Well if I had to buy a whole new controller just to use it on PC, why wouldn't I just buy one that is made for PC?

ulaoulao
January 31st, 2008, 19:37
Do you realize your questions are symbiotic in the sense they rhetorically answer one another?

RiderLeangle
January 31st, 2008, 23:17
*hits head on desk*
Have you ever thought its not worth it to buy one?
And controllers with USB ports ain't really that cheap.

ulaoulao
February 1st, 2008, 13:39
worth, being what one decides is justifiable of cost over time. To me H@LL YES! but then again I just justified buying a 50 inch plasma..


IF 20 bucks ait cheep you may want to consider an occupation change, though i gather you may still be in school.

Moral here is to each there own. For me to make an usb controller out of a joystick of any kind wireless or not, I will only spend time and about 3 bucks. This is because I'm one with the ways of a soldiering iron and electronic skills. Before this I would pay 20$ an adapters.. Currently I'm making a usb to any joystick box (see my link in my sig). Though this is all just a hobby to me. Whatever you diced, the "worth" is measured in the eye of the beholder, and not a generalization.

RiderLeangle
February 1st, 2008, 18:43
IF 20 bucks ait cheep you may want to consider an occupation change, though i gather you may still be in school.
I would make the change to having one, But I'm 15, And the legal age to get a job is 16, I'm no mathologist (XDXDXD) but I'm pretty sure I ain't old enough.

ulaoulao
February 1st, 2008, 22:22
then I trust you only use emulation to get "free" stuff so in that case 20$ is still cheaper the a console.

RiderLeangle
February 2nd, 2008, 02:23
Yeah. And to get new features that you can't do on the actual console, But I do download ROMs, even for consoles I already have (like DS)

ulaoulao
February 2nd, 2008, 05:07
Well good luck on the usb thing, but there is nothing better then playing with the original pads on the computer.

Phreque
May 2nd, 2008, 15:32
I've just started converting Genesis controllers to USB (been doing NES/SNES ones for a while). Doing both 3 and 6-button, even though interest seems primarily in the 6. Not sure why - I really like the feel and action of the 3 button personally.

Anyway, I've been putting them up on my site - http://www.phreque.com

I'm waiting for parts to do another run of 15 or so 6-button controllers. Should be in soon.

/.p

Phreque
May 15th, 2008, 06:03
The first batch flew out my door! I'm waiting for parts now to make another 20 or so. Stay tuned!

ulaoulao
May 19th, 2008, 03:47
Most people prefer to keep there game pads intact, hence adapters. It is a much more elegant anyways. Plus adapters can support multiple gampad types. Anyone looking to mod there existing gamepad is most likely not looking to pay someone to do it. - Just my 2 pennies, good luck in your endeavors.