Every game ever emulated?

[dr0n3]

Hi!

Im thinking about emulation in general, but I have a few thoughts.

Am I right in thinking that in order to play games up to PS2 + XBOX without bugs and issues, I would need:

1: modded XBOX (for emu's up to psone... nes, snes etc etc)

2: modded PS2 (for psone + ps2 games to run effectivley)

3: n64 (for n64 games to run effectivley :P)

The reason im thinking about n64 is because I heard there were graphics and compatibilty issues... I would want to get as authentic as I can with the graphics and stability of the games.

does this sound good?

Its fairly cheap to get all this and would be great if all the games ran smoothly etc, that is my main concern.

would i need all of this to achieve my aim of being able to play all the games ever up to ps2+xbox and also be able to utilise the accessories etc.

hope this rant makes sense im just excited.

thanks.

[alcoatjez]

If I were you. I would stick to the PC. About all systems below the PS2/Xbox/GC generation are emulated. On the PC you have a much larger choice of emulators, so a greater compatibility.

[dr0n3]

it was my understanding that emulating an N64 and a PS2, on a pc leads to problems..

I have tried goldeneye and others but the graphics on emulators are not up to scratch.

also there is compatibility issues with the emulators and the games... almost all the games have bugs or errors.

so why would i stick to pc emulation when it is so flawed for anything above a psx?

infact even psx emulators are dodgy too.

peace.

[alcoatjez]

The only things that are better than emulation on PC are the real thing or backwards compatibility like the PS2.
If an emulator has issues with a certain game on PC, it will have the same issues with that emulator for f.e. the Xbox.

[dr0n3]

sigh... read my original post dood.

to simplify:

1. XBOX - for emulators BEFORE psx

2. PS2 - for psx and ps2

3. n64 for n64 games :P



I am yet to find somthing better.

I have all the emulators on pc anyway... its not the same for n64 and above emulators... the games are shoddy.

[alcoatjez]

sigh... read my original post dood.

Sigh... To simplify: Emulators on an Xbox DO NOT run better on a Xbox, most likely worse.

[dr0n3]

sigh... to simplify even more...

I know that psx and n64 emulators dont work well on an xbox.... thats not what im asking or saying....

i dont see how a snes emulator doesnt really work well on an xbox... its not as if its not powerfull enough, and the emu is developed enough for it to work...

i understand that psx and n64 will not work properly, again thats not what i would use an xbox for...

the reason i want an xbox to emulate spectrum, atari, amstrad, amiga, nes, snes etc etc is because it is portable (sort of), and i can play old skool games on it... not to try to emulate psx or n64..... thats what a psx and n64 would be for...

anyway, hope this clears the confusion.

[FatTrucker]

Pretty much all systems up to and including the 16 bit era are almost perfectly emulated now.

You will need a PC to make the most of some of these emulators, although many do have variants that will run on an x-box with varying degrees of success.

If you intend to emulate old computers that had keyboards, like spectrums, amigas, ST's etc, you really need a PC to do it properly.

PSX emulation is pretty good on PC now and compatibility is high.

Running the games on the original systems remains the only way to enjoy PS2 and N64 games with 100% authenticity and compatibility. An N64 with a disk add on and a chipped PS2 will allow you to play all PS1, PS2 and N64 games.

You will need a PC rather than an X-Box if you want to be able to run 'all games ever released for any system'.

In all honesty though using the X-Box as your prime emulator solution for multiple emulators is still a messy solution that will require you to be disk swapping and FTP file swapping, which kind of defeats the object as with the exception of Mame, you might as well just use the original systems if you need to set things up every time you want to change your emulator or roms.

[dr0n3]

thank you guys for your input,

Im thinking of modding a psx and n64, purley so i can play games in their original glory. (also can utilise the buzzers and fighting simulator, and eyetoy...sooooo cheap now....and a bit lame, but hey.)

it makes a lot of sense for me NOT to hack an xbox.. (btw they are £30! ) ... however, I need it to take to a pub for a street fighter 2 tournament.. an xbox is chunky, but not as chunky as my pc.... im worried about drunken idiots smashing my laptop or pc.... (especially as the laptop isnt mine)

Also, gamepads for a pc are £15 for a good one. I would need 4 pads to play goldeneye properly on the laptop/pc. seeing as an xbox is only £30... im more tempted by that.

so to conclude, personally i think an xbox for £30 is a bloody good little project for a retro games machine that is (relativley) portable. Considering that i need to move it around a lot etc.

It seems weird but i love hacking stuff anyway, and i think because its so cheap, ill give it a shot... even if its so i can just play some retro games and xbox games....

[FatTrucker]

Using an X-Box as a 'portable' mame emulator is a good idea.

If you are going to play Multi-player Goldeneye, you are best doing it with a real N64. I don't think the X-Box will cut it.

[dr0n3]

Sweet.

Thought so.

I can get an n64 for £15 so i might just do that for goldeneye.. i played it on my pc and it wasnt as good as original. playable, totally.. just not the same...

hahaha, im gonna end up with an xbox a ps2 and an n64... then my dream will be complete... for now...

It would be nice, but I cant afford a wii, 360elite or a ps3... oh well i have a monster pc instead lol.

Just wanted a mame/snes/genesis etc solution (for damn cheap)

I just ran down to the shop and got a cheap xbox, an action replay, and a copy of splinter cell ( for £1 ! )

;)

lol.

thanks again for your advice.

[alcoatjez]

Please keep in mind that copyboxes for the N64 are very expensive.
For the rest, good luck and feel free to ask more info :)

[ulaoulao]

Interesting topic.

I'll cast my opinion for the pc. I'm one of those collectors like alcoatjez here. I just have to have it all. I emulate just about everything up to to 64 bit systems. I built a converter box.. So I can use any joystick I want for the most part. and connect my computer to my tv. I use QuickPlay as a front end as its make life easy.

My buddy has his xbox moded all to hell. I will admit its more of a stand alone set up, and seem like less a hassle sometimes. But he cant compete with compatibility and speed. If you want " Every game" emulated go with the PC. Although its just my 2 pennies.

[Ryanfaescotland]

Sounds fun, which pub? :)

[Zion]

2: modded PS2 (for psone + ps2 games to run effectivley)

I find that quite bizarre, why would you need a modded ps2 do play psone and ps2 games effectively when it does so perfectly without a chip/modification :glare:

:ninja:

As for nintendo 64, surreal 64 does a pretty decent job of emulating nintendo 64 games on the xbox and project64 is the best n64 emulator for the pc (full speed and great compatibility)

[Genome]

to origional poster;

you shouldnt mess with a ps2/xbox. you will get far greater emulation on a pc. from what i remember hearing a while back ps2 doesnt even support all psone games. (that might not be correct its just what i have heard.)

and to get ALL games you are going to have to go to alot more trouble than you are planning for. i know im there too. you need a TON more storage space than an xbox or ps2 hard drive have. of course you can fenagle another harddrive in but at the cost of a lot more work. if im right a xbox hard drive is only around 5 gb. that doesnt even cover all of the super nintendo games. mame is 15 gb or so, sega 3gb, you see what im saying you are going to need alot more space than you will have ready on your existing harddrives. and the term "all" means infact all. you are probably not considering the 10-15 home computer systems that were released. apple II is around 2gb and thats just a crappy apple 2. you probably need a little more planning on this.:(

[TchuBacha]

I find that quite bizarre, why would you need a modded ps2 do play psone and ps2 games effectively when it does so perfectly without a chip/modification :glare:


Maybe hes running imported or "backups" on his ps2. :p


to origional poster;

you shouldnt mess with a ps2/xbox. you will get far greater emulation on a pc. from what i remember hearing a while back ps2 doesnt even support all psone games. (that might not be correct its just what i have heard.)

The PS2 can run all but a very small handful of psone games. The newer slim PS2's can run all psone games. I think you maybe confused with the PS3 which depending one where and when you bought it can only run a few ps3 games via emulation.

Also don't be put of modding your PS2. Yes it can be difficult soldering a modchip onto your ps2 for a novice but there are experienced professional who can do it for a small fee. Softmodding such as the independence exploiy is also an option, but requires another modded ps2 to run install some files onto a memory card.