Microsoft confirms 'Windows 7' due in 3 years

[cibomatto2002]

At an internal meeting for its sales force this week, Microsoft confirmed the code name and approximate timing for Windows Vista's successor. The details, such as they are, aren't a huge surprise, but given the dearth of information from Microsoft on its next PC operating system, any confirmation seems notable.

According to a series of PowerPoint slides presented at the company's internal "MGX" global sales meeting this week, the new version is, as expected, known by the internal name "Windows 7," and it's due out in approximately three years.

But no big features were revealed, and overall, the slides don't reveal much that most people tracking Windows wouldn't have guessed. For example, one slide says Windows 7 will be "A full OS release," available for businesses and consumers, in both 32- and 64-bit versions. Another slide says the "development philosophy" for future Windows versions includes establishing a "more predictable release schedule," and expanding the "Windows product family" to "deliver value beyond the OS including subscription offerings."

Another slide carries the intriguing title, "Internal Planning Process Detail," but contains mostly generic statements, such as, "Identify and articulate key dev pillars and potential scenarios internally." Elsewhere in the deck, another slide references Windows Vista Service Pack 1 but doesn't give any timing beyond saying it's "next" on the roadmap.

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http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/118404.asp

sounds like vista is dying all ready.

[Jale]

Indeed. It's a waste of effort and money.

[TchuBacha]

Maybe they'll include hypervisors in Windows 7


We're going to look at a fundamental piece of enabling technology. Maybe it's hypervisors. I don't know what it is" [...] "Maybe it's a new user interface paradigm for consumers.

[Robert]

Maybe it will give entire control of your computer to Hollywood.

[Ryanfaescotland]

"A full OS release"

Unlikely going by the amount of bugs etc the rest of their Windows verisons have had it'll more likely be a 90% OS 10% Blue Screen Flasher

Honestly Bill if your reading this take a little more time before releasing it, do some more work on Vista, develope Windows 7 to the point where there are very few problems then release it. Don't just throw out crap in 3 years please. Cheers Bill your a mate.

[TchuBacha]

"A full OS release"

Unlikely going by the amount of bugs etc the rest of their Windows verisons have had it'll more likely be a 90% OS 10% Blue Screen Flasher

Honestly Bill if your reading this take a little more time before releasing it, do some more work on Vista, develope Windows 7 to the point where there are very few problems then release it. Don't just throw out crap in 3 years please. Cheers Bill your a mate.

With a 93% market share, Windows cant be that bad, else we wouldnt buy it.

Vista is crap? - No its not. Its new. There isnt many drivers out there for alot of the hardware, therefore some people think its rubbish because it doesnt work with there machine. Give it time, its just new thats all.

Windows security is like a sieve? - Maybe, but seeing as 93% of all computers run a windows OS it makes sense for virus writers and hackers to attack Windows compared to Linux which has a market share of less than 1%. Virus writers aren't stupid.

BSOD? - Common on the Win9x because they were built around DOS which wasnt a very stable OS. Today we have Win2k, XP Vista... all built on NT, which is alot more stable. BSOD can still happen on these OS's but there causes are usually down to hardware failure, poorly writen drivers, hardware incompatibility.

[Zach]

Umm dude.. Windows 9x was not built "on DOS" it was built AROUND it.. It was a GUI Wrapper.. just like DOSSHELL.EXE only prettier.

DOS was a ROCK SOLID OS.. It took some real fucking up to actually crash DOS.. Have you ever even seen a DOS crash screen?

I saw more parity errors (EDO RAM... lolz) than DOS crashes and parity errors were rare as hell

[Ryanfaescotland]

With a 93% market share, Windows cant be that bad, else we wouldnt buy it.

I didn't, I bought a laptop it came with it since they have a 93% market share ;)




Vista is crap? - No its not. Its new. There isnt many drivers out there for alot of the hardware, therefore some people think its rubbish because it doesnt work with there machine. Give it time, its just new thats all.

Ain't saying Vista is crap, what I'm saying is just what your saying, spend more time developing the software you have just released instead of trying to produce a new version.



Windows security is like a sieve? - Maybe, but seeing as 93% of all computers run a windows OS it makes sense for virus writers and hackers to attack Windows compared to Linux which has a market share of less than 1%. Virus writers aren't stupid.

93% market share doesn't = 93% of the world computers using windows other than that yeah I totally agree people seem to forget that point.



BSOD? - Common on the Win9x because they were built around DOS which wasnt a very stable OS. Today we have Win2k, XP Vista... all built on NT, which is alot more stable. BSOD can still happen on these OS's but there causes are usually down to hardware failure, poorly writen drivers, hardware incompatibility.

I ain't actually had many BSOD on Vista I was just sterotyping and that is wrong. :msn_shy:

[MCP]

and the winner is...Microsoft!:D

[TchuBacha]

Umm dude.. Windows 9x was not built "on DOS" it was built AROUND it.. It was a GUI Wrapper.. just like DOSSHELL.EXE only prettier.

DOS was a ROCK SOLID OS.. It took some real fucking up to actually crash DOS.. Have you ever even seen a DOS crash screen?

I saw more parity errors (EDO RAM... lolz) than DOS crashes and parity errors were rare as hell

My mistake, I worded myself wrong :o. Windows 95/98 is built around DOS, and was an excellant OS (I wouldnt know personally as DOS was before me :p ).

But wasnt Windows 95/98 unstable because it was built around DOS?

[Jale]

The codename used to be "Blackcomb" and then "Vienna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%22Vienna%22)". That sounded familiar.


But wasnt Windows 95/98 unstable because it was built around DOS?
Windows 98 was one of the most stable Windows ever.

[Zach]

The reasons for this was because they were running a 32-bit OS ontop of a 16-bit infrastructure. The instabilities were because of the technological limits Microsoft foolishly imposed on themselves for one reason or another.

[ouch123]

The codename used to be "Blackcomb" and then "Vienna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%22Vienna%22)". That sounded familiar.


Windows 98 was one of the most stable Windows ever.
Stable, true, but I hated the ridiculous illegal operations that occurred. (i.e, use magic eraser in MS PAINT and you get "D'oh! Illegal operation! Will now close!)) Bah.

[azoreseuropa]

microsoft always steal our moneys and they are waste our time. Good bye, microsoft.

[Jale]

Well, I'm starting to get blue screens of death already :angry:

Gotta format this night.

[leon_belmont]

Of course Windows is more practicable than Linux,but that's come because 93% of us don't like ,command line based OS-es ,but Linux has the Mandrake system which i remember with nostalgy and you can have all programs you want for free.
I never have seen until these days, a relatively new version of Mandrake Linux ,crashing,and i 've seen a lot of Windows systems doing that.

Unfortunately i have not the required skills to use Linux as a day to day system so i have hanged up in Windows,but when i will have more free time ,i will learn Linux and i will migrate to it. It's worth it in Mandrake for me , cause i tried Red Hat and Debian ,but they were to difficult for me.

CONSIDER ,YOU DOWNLOAD ALL YOUR PROGRAMS FOR FREE.
A PROGRAM FREE FOR EVERY OF YOUR NEEDS.
THAT'S IMPORTANT.

But i know many don't agree with me :)

[ulaoulao]

leon_belmont, if you get the change and have not try umbuntu, or kumbuntu. It is debian but its very away from the debian hardships. Very easy install and a huge community. Way better the mandrake IMO.

[leon_belmont]

What is this Ubuntu ?
I heard about it at an italian forum and they were saying was great too.

Since it's free can you tell me the direct link of it where to download.
I intend trying all of Linux versions.

Many thanks in advance.

[TchuBacha]

What is this Ubuntu ?
I heard about it at an italian forum and they were saying was great too.

Since it's free can you tell me the direct link of it where to download.
I intend trying all of Linux versions.

Many thanks in advance.

Ubuntu is an awesome Linux distro. You can download it from here (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download).

Burn it to CD and boot it up. Its a livecd so you can try it out without having to install it.

Video of compiz fusion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zeX_fU5ESU) (Included with version 7.10)

[ulaoulao]

Yup like chewy said!!! you will love it.. dont over look the forum, anything you need to know is there..

[leon_belmont]

Many thanks ulaoulao.

Can you tell me Intel Celeron M processor
ETHERNET CONTROLLER, PCI MODEM DRIVER ,MULTIMEDIA CONTROLLER DRIVER,AND VIDEO CARD DRIVER.

I already posted in another post this ,but it seems nobody has read it until now and i really need them fast.

[TchuBacha]

Windows 7 isn't headed for 2009, says Microsoft. More like 2011. (http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/windows-7-isnt-headed-for-2009-says-microsoft-more-like-2011/)


The only problems Ive had with Ubuntu is the slow loading times with 7.10 and getting used to install/updating software and basic admin stuff...

[ulaoulao]

Chewy made a good point, I would not get 7.10. There are a few issues with it I don't like. I use 7.10(server version) for my server. I like it, and have no issues but for a desktop go one version back.

[leon_belmont]

Well i am downloading 7.10 Desktop,anyway i have a real powerful 3.4GHz intel core duo processor so it should handle it ,pretty well.But i am only collecting the Linux versions for now.I am not ready to make it a day to day system for a while.
Maybe after sometime i will.Anyway i founded all the drivers for my Laptop excluding the PCI MODEM and ethernet bord card driver?i guess i should try google,but if you know a website please let me know.

[ulaoulao]

it does very well with drivers.