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Theres mine, now post yours.

You pitchur is now show up for me.

You can't see it?

I also cannot view it.

Okay, here's mine, it's in link form because I don't want to fill up the entire page.

My Desktop

here's mine/ yet again.

My desktophere's mine/ yet again.

So you play E.T. aswell. <_<

haven&#39;t played in about a month.

Is Freedom Fighters any good?

i would give it 8/10. graphics are good. gameplay is very fun, since you have sqad memebers with you and later you have like 8 of them which makes the game kind of too easy. the locations are great too, very good level design. but after you&#39;re done, there&#39;s really nothing that you can do with it anymore. still a fun experience.

hasn&#39;t anyone here replaced the desktop with something like litestep or KDE, Gnome, icEWM, SOMEthing other than the WindowsXP Explorer.... cmon, wheres the mods thats worth a shit&#33;

YEH KDE AND GNOME AND ICEQWMWMWMWMWMWMWMW WORK WELL ON WINDOWZAZ&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

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You stupid twat. You&#39;ve clearly never used these desktops, because you think that they run on Windows. You are also trying to look clever by claiming that anybody who doesn&#39;t use them is worthless. Fuck off.

Waz, dont call him stupid. If he says that we should replace windows explorer with KDE or Gnome he should tell us how to do it after he gives us the site where he got the windows build of it... You do know what a "build" is, right suckthismeat?

As for Litestep the last time I used it is when I was still using Windows 98(year = 1999) and francly I discovered that it was quite unstable when installed to non English versions of that operating system.


Waz: We may be both wrong about this and he could have meant using linux instead of windows but there is little chance of that.

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Originally posted by Lefteris_D@Jan 1 2004, 06:23 PM
Waz: We may be both wrong about this and he could have meant using linux instead of windows but there is little chance of that.

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I&#39;m positive that neither Gnome or KDE have been ported to Windows. You might be able to run them with Cygwin, but it&#39;s a really rubbish thing to do.

"hasn&#39;t anyone here replaced the desktop with something like litestep or KDE, Gnome, icEWM, SOMEthing other than the WindowsXP Explorer...."

See, he&#39;s suggesting using them instead of Windows Explorer. He also claims to use OGGenc as an MP3 encoder in another topic. People who run around showing off about the fact that they use an alternative OS are bad enough, but pretending to just to look cool really annoys me.

I am 100% sure that neither KDE or Gnome have been ported to windows. I asked him for proof just to expose him. As for mp3 I mostly use good old LAME along with several other software.

By saying that he uses OGGenc he may just mean that he doesn&#39;t use MP3s at all, but I&#39;m not giving him the benefit of the doubt, not after this thread.

I know some *nix window managers work on Windows with an X server, I&#39;ve done so myself (was it IceWM? I can&#39;t remember). But that&#39;s clearly not what he meant, he&#39;s just being a fool. Probably thought he was dazzling everybody with brilliance and didn&#39;t consider that people would see through his lies. Sad.

KDE on Windows

Cygwin, as I thought. It wouldn&#39;t integrate with the OS to be used as an actual replacement for Explorer.

Pointless (screenshot). You can see that it just runs in a window, Explorer is still there.

We connected to an X server at school from a normal win 2000 system several times but neither that or the KDE on Windows link you posted are explorer replacements. To make KDE work on windows they would have to rewrite it just to allow it to have all the control panel tools(to say the least) that explorer has. Making a direct port of KDE or Gnome as a replacement without making heavy changes cant happen.

The best thing I can come up with is a DOS version of KDE... That would be my dream come true but it will never happen... :(

That&#39;s basically what I said, but with more wrong bits.
The Control Panel is nothing to do with explorer.

DOS KDE is a really stupid idea, 16-bit multitasking on an Intel processor won&#39;t work.

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Originally posted by WazWaz+Jan 1 2004, 06:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (WazWaz &#064; Jan 1 2004, 06:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lefteris_D@Jan 1 2004, 06:23 PM
Waz: We may be both wrong about this and he could have meant using linux instead of windows but there is little chance of that.

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I&#39;m positive that neither Gnome or KDE have been ported to Windows. You might be able to run them with Cygwin, but it&#39;s a really rubbish thing to do.

"hasn&#39;t anyone here replaced the desktop with something like litestep or KDE, Gnome, icEWM, SOMEthing other than the WindowsXP Explorer...."

See, he&#39;s suggesting using them instead of Windows Explorer. He also claims to use OGGenc as an MP3 encoder in another topic. People who run around showing off about the fact that they use an alternative OS are bad enough, but pretending to just to look cool really annoys me. [/b][/quote]
you dont user google very much do you

YES KDE and GNOME have been ported, the gnome port STARTED about 2 years ago, and they both run on top of the Xfree port as mentioned elswhere in the forum... oh yeah, but gnome only works under win2k/xp/etc

In fact, http://xfree86.cygwin.com/ported-software.html is where you will find

And if you noticed I did also mention a port which does not require Cygwin, but DOES replace explorer, which was LITESTEP, which is basically a port of afterstep

We already covered this and stated that since they run on top of 1) an emulated *nix layer and 2) don&#39;t offer integration with the actual OS, it&#39;s pointless, and you are simply name dropping as originally accused. How can you accuse somebody of not using Google when they&#39;ve already pointed out the information that you think they haven&#39;t been able to find? Don&#39;t read entire threads much, do you?

please refer to the EDITED post.

Litestep is not a port of Afterstep, it&#39;s just a vaguely similar design. That wasn&#39;t the issue, the issue was you claiming the *nix WMs being ported to Windows, which they are not, they are simply run through a *nix emulation layer and don&#39;t offer any sort of usable desktop to the underlying Windows OS.

Don&#39;t change your post after people have replied and then post afterwards to refer to the edited post. That just makes it look like you&#39;re trying to win an argument by changing what you said after it&#39;s been refuted in a reply.

look at the time of the edited post, and note that I was editing it when you replied - as I had left out that bit of the litestep matter, and if you go to the litestep webiste, they even lay claim to be partially ported from afterstep, and they mention another program, though I cant remember which...

and I am only puting it the way the cygqin guys sayed it, if they want to call it ported then as far as I am concerned it is close enough

Cygqin is using emulation. A ported version would replace explorer not run in it.

And that&#39;s your explanation for complaining about people&#39;s choice of normal desktops, is it? Software which doesn&#39;t run natively and doesn&#39;t integrate with the system (which is the entire purpose of a shell)?

I mentioned the editing thing because what you edited into your message is related to what I replied with, and it&#39;s 2 minutes after I made my post. You then complain about me not paying attention to what you&#39;d edited in. That still stinks of foul play.

Hey alright, I am going to be honest, I came across Cygwin recently, and havent had time to download KDE or gnome yet to see how well that part works, I have however been using litestep for sometime now and love it, windows is more stable and I have my familar linux look and feel to it....

normally I would have just come in here sayin why the fuck you guys using XP when Gentoo is faster and more stable.....

So which would you rather hear?

I thought that Cygwin was a full port.... as I am on Dialup, I wont be able to test out any of it for a few more days (until Icewm is done downloading) then ill know for sure how it acts on my shit.

But I dont see a point in just running Cygwin as an application.... I hope it does more.

Okay, it&#39;s fine that you didn&#39;t know that, I&#39;m just irritated in the arrogant way you complained at people for something you clearly don&#39;t use yourself.

Cygwin basically just gives you a faux-Unix style system where the programs are compiled natively for Windows, but reside in the Cygwin directory. Where the programs would normally call &#39;nix libs, they are refered to Windows DLLs. It&#39;s only really any use for isolated things.

Gentoo is just a Linux distro. I personally Like Red Hat and Mandrake better as they are the only real distributions I tried(besides live cd&#39;s and some other minor distro).

I am not against Linux and I do use it.

I clearly DONT because I havent finnished it yet.... then I WILL - IF it works better than Litestep.

I am just amazed at how LITTLE people really do customize their desktops..... thats all I was getting at, those pics where of the default WinXP theme, and a different background, although it is interesring to note that 2 of them in particualr had the mozilla firebird icon on the desktop.....

But that is all I am getting at, There are MANY applications to change your desktop, and I see that no one has....

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Originally posted by Lefteris_D@Jan 2 2004, 05:52 AM
Gentoo is just a Linux distro. I personally Like Red Hat and Mandrake better as they are the only real distributions I tried(besides live cd&#39;s and some other minor distro).

I am not against Linux and I do use it.

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I only like gentoo because it is oprimized for my system in a way that nothing else does, everything is built to fit my processor, and applications that I want are installed not the things I dont want or need...

I personally use Mozilla as well and I patched my uxtheme.dll to use unsigned themes. I&#39;ll post a screenshot sometime today.

You&#39;re not very convincing, meat.

Your point about using other desktops still isn&#39;t valid. As discussed, none of the WMs designed for other platforms work as intended on Windows, and LiteStep isn&#39;t really very good.

Oh, Mr. Optimised Gentoo User - perhaps you&#39;d like to share your compiler flags with us all so we can learn from your experience?

*cough*

you know, it appears you argue with everyone in EVRY thread on here..... mabey people suggesting other options isnt the problem but the fuckin retard on the other end.

But yes, I do use litestep with my win98 box, and XP on this machine(guess what it dual boots)

and when you can run the same game under 2 different platforms and see between 25 and 40 FPS difference, then criticize the use of Gentoo

Ah, skirting around the question completely, and then trying to hide it by quoting some nonsense &#39;benchmark&#39;, a particularly naive thing to do considering the abstraction involved with the drivers required for games.

I&#39;m not criticising Gentoo, it&#39;s a fine distribution. I&#39;m criticising you, because I think you are a liar. I KNOW that you have no idea what you&#39;re talking about. Nothing you say can get you out of that hole.

I do argue with the stupid people. You&#39;re inferior and your disablity seriously puts a damper on my own existence. I shouldn&#39;t suffer for your shortcomings.

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Originally posted by WazWaz@Jan 2 2004, 06:37 AM
Ah, skirting around the question completely, and then trying to hide it by quoting some nonsense &#39;benchmark&#39;, a particularly naive thing to do considering the abstraction involved with the drivers required for games.

I&#39;m not criticising Gentoo, it&#39;s a fine distribution. I&#39;m criticising you, because I think you are a liar. I KNOW that you have no idea what you&#39;re talking about. Nothing you say can get you out of that hole.

I do argue with the stupid people. You&#39;re inferior and your disablity seriously puts a damper on my own existence. I shouldn&#39;t suffer for your shortcomings.

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ok asshole, Of the only 3 relevant lines (only 3 are uncommented anyways)

CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march-athlon-xp -pipe"
Accept keywords="~x86"

Gentoo kernel build 2.4.20-2 gaming build modified to allow Adaptec 2940 Scsi-3 controller plus the nvidia kernel patch for the FX5200

so know that you have the make.conf, would you like my make.globals, or how about the entire package list that is installed?

--edited the model number on the scsi card--

Well Googled.

Hadn&#39;t you better run off and boast in some other topic? There are so many other open source tools you haven&#39;t blatantly listed yet&#33; You could do with the typing practise. Sentences have punctuation in them these days, haven&#39;t you heard? The future is now.

hey check this out, -O3 IS in the flags list, So is -Pipe, and March &#33;

" Athlon XP (AMD)

CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" "

Please note that those are freehackers.org recomendations. I use what I will, and either way, mine is STILL better suited to my cpu and my needs. Let me see Windows generic amd cpu suuport, or Mandrakes Generic i686 support VS. direct Athlon-xp support....take your pick

- and also note that in my case the CXXFLAGS line is NOT needed. but tell you what, I will get some Desktop screenshots PROVING that I use what I claim I have been using, Will that sufice?

Oh, and its about time you started making more sense, that last post was VERY vauge.

Do you like my punctuation this time? Huh? is my litle wazwaz feeling better now?

Yeah, because even when you try really hard to type everything properly, it&#39;s still unreadable tripe.

I think you&#39;re a bit dim, and I shan&#39;t talk to you.

IS that the BEST insult you can come up with?

look, if you want to see confusing look at this: "Well Googled.

Hadn&#39;t you better run off and boast in some other topic? There are so many other open source tools you haven&#39;t blatantly listed yet"

and your site only supported what I had listed. man gcc will give a longer list of options, and how/when to use such options as well.

But its all good, as long as you won&#39;t talk to me, then mabey ppl will see the purpose for the posts and not hunt for stupid shit like punctuation or cflags

There was nothing confusing about Waz&#39;s previous post, I am positive you have comprehension problems.

This is confusing, "mabey ppl".