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Originally Posted by Badger

I don't really see why we changed?

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Because we wanted something more solid.

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Originally Posted by Badger

What advantage has this over IPB 1.3? I personally hate the vBulletin software, its ugly, over priced and over rated.

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- Ugly? If you study the template system for a few hours you will see that you can make it look any way you like. I dont plan any crazy template changes as it wont be easy to update then.
- Over priced? Yes, $160 is alot but you don't have to pay any more besides the $30 every year(optional) just to get software updates.
- Over rated? Could be... but it is still the best.
- You forgot to mention "bloated" but that depends on the features you are actually using.

If you still don't like using it.... then don't use it, I can't stop you.

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Originally Posted by Badger

I run an IPB, on a budget server, getting 10 times the traffic of this forum and its more heavily modified. My CPU load increase was slight but not alot. What exactly did you do to manage to 'double' it?

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More heavily modified? I've been to Roybacer.net and I know that you have 3-4 major mods(arcade, map, garage etc). Trust me, I had ALOT more.

Keep in mind that this server does not have only EZ on it.

Do keep in mind that VB sometimes takes a couple of days to tweak it in order to work the right way.

What modifications did you have? In terms of what they did, could they actually warrant the server power required to run them?

I still don't see what you have done to double the CPU required, unless you have made several invisible modifications to satisfy your lust for extra buttons for to press.

I can't post the exact list right now but the major reason was the increased number of queries(or the more complex queries) needed. That helped in putting the extra load compared to a "clean" installation. Also keep in mind that no matter how well a modification was written it still made the code more sloppy.

Let's just forget about it, ok? IPB is no more and we have along way ahead of us with vb.

Anyway, the changes in the settings seem to be working and the robots.txt file will start working soon as well.

Thats not an answer Lefteris, that is a swerve.

I am asking a legitimate question about what exactly you had done to make IPB use double the CPU usage. Surely to make similar modifications to vB would make the CPU usage the same, if not more?

I just don't understand the logic in switching.

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Originally Posted by Badger

Thats not an answer Lefteris, that is a swerve.

I am asking a legitimate question about what exactly you had done to make IPB use double the CPU usage.

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Keep away from heavy modifications and you will be fine. That's all.

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Originally Posted by Badger

Surely to make similar modifications to vB would make the CPU usage the same, if not more?

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That applies to all forum software but that does not mean that I plan to do the same mistake again.

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Originally Posted by Badger

I just don't understand the logic in switching.

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GHDpro likes this software and so am I. We decided that there had to be a swich at some point so we did it. Simple enough?

IPB is still great. One of the four greatest forum software(php) to be exact. The fact that we swiched does not change that.

What heavy modifications did you do? I never thought EZ to be a particularly heavily modified site. You are still swerving the question.

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Originally Posted by Badger

What heavy modifications did you do?

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Arcade, Topsites, Ratings(disabled but query still run), advanced stats(+ additional modules), security logs, gender selector(not custom field), user titles, welcome panel, ACP modifications and a few more things I can't remember right now.

Overall I think it had around 25 modifications and the database structure was a mess.

Add that to the fact that IPB also got busy messages once every hour and you get the idea as well :)

I hope that covered all your questions because I don't plan to analyze the why we changed any more.

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Originally Posted by Jet Set Willy

The post icons really annoy me. I like a topic with new posts to have an icon which looks drastically different from the others (my eyes suck).

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That sums me up...

What Badger said is probably very true! It's working slower. I don't wanna repeat myself but IMO phpbb rules - simple and fast!

Actually, I find it much faster than IPB.

Is there a restriction on how much time you have to edit? I think I'm working off my memory of the really old forums, but I don't recall ever having one.

I'm finding it running very slow (comparible to burning board in loading times) in between the times when I am getting the server is too busy error, which I have never had before.

I'll give it a few days.